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  "thread": {
    "id": 966,
    "subject": "Inire at the helm",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "1998-07-11T21:00:00+00:00",
    "last": "1998-07-11T21:00:00+00:00"
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    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0016-0059@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "m.driussi",
        "address": "m.driussi at genie.com"
      },
      "date": "1998-07-11T21:00:00+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Inire at the helm",
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          "text": "raster,\n\nRight, I only meant leaving Inire in charge seems like a dumb idea\nif you know in advance you are going to be gone for more than a year.\nI'm quite comfortable with Inire running things while Severian was\ndoing his slave stint in Ascia.  And I can easily believe a similar\nset-up for Severian's presumed quick jaunt to Yesod (\"a three hour\ntour . . . a three hour tour . . .\").\n\nTime to point out that memories of the old Autarch's trip (first one\nsince Ymar) probably gives the itinerary, which then turns out to be\nfalse for Severian's trip.  We can figure that the old Autarch was\nreturned to his own timeline thirty to ninty days after he had left,\nif Severian has a sense that 100 days is getting somewhat late.\n\nBut I wonder what became of Inire himself.  And I wonder if he was\nadvising Valeria, before and/or after she took the throne.\n\nLike you, I see trouble with the breakdown of the real autarchy.  The\nway I see it, the autarchy is the pact with Yesod, the legitimacy by\nwhich Yesod recognizes the autarch as the representative of all Urth.\nIf Valeria ain't a real autarch, and I believe we can all agree\nthere (just like any man can't call himself Pope and literally be\nrecognized as the Pope), then the pact is invalidated.  Inire, vizier\nto countless autarchs, may be forbidden to deal with non-autarch\nusurpers--he might be on-loan from Yesod, like a diplomat, and\nsubject to recall if the situation deteriorates.  \"I'm sorry, but the\nU.N. does not recognize your junta as the legitimate government.\"\n\nThe war with Ascia seems to have continued on.  Eata's tale points to\nsome criticism of Severian's Reign--that Severian was always off\nfighting the Ascians (this would be a good cover for that year as a\nslave, btw), that Valeria's Reign meant she could mind the domestic\nfront while her Albertine consort (heh) could make passionate war\nwith Ascia off at the front.\n\nRe: age of hierodules.  Well Baldanders may be only guessing, but if\nso I think he has stumbled into the truth, since O, B, & F say pretty\nmuch the same thing about themselves only (granting the different\nflavors of hierodules available): \"Ages are aeons to us.\"  Which\nleads Baldanders to make his dog statement.  Later, on the Ship, he\nvisits their chambers and decides they are uplifted kelpies or\ndolphins or what-have-you.  In contrast to reptile Cumaean and wryneck\nibis thoth Inire.\n\nRe: the flying sorcerers and Baldanders.  Good points about the\ndisjointed nature of dealing with them in their retro-time travel!\nTrying to think about how this would work in Severian's court, I long\nago gave up and figured that they just arrived by ship early in his\nreign--he recognized them and they recognized him--and they hung out\nin realtime for the ten years or so until he got on the Ship, and then\nthey started tracking backwards in time, never going forwards again\nexcept in realtime.\n\n=mantis="
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