{ "export": { "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/usenet/1", "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "usenet", "thread": { "id": 1, "subject": "Gene Wolfe material request", "messages": 5, "voices": 4, "first": null, "last": null }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "<3r62hv$bds@quandong.itd.adelaide.edu.au>", "from": { "name": "Brendan Williamson", "address": "brendan at smug.student.adelaide.edu.au" }, "date": null, "subject": "Gene Wolfe material request", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I'm beginning to write and compile a Web page devoted to the work of Gene\n Wolfe, and I've only been able to find three Wolfe-related files on the\n Net. Of course, I'm going to add my own, but if anyone else has any files\n that might be useful, please send 'em over. Thanks.\n\n -Brendan\n \n Incidentally, what's the copyright situation where book covers are \n concerned? I'm fairly sure that quoting from book reviews is OK, but\n publishers might get a bit miffed if I scan in whole covers." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "David E Romm", "address": "romm at winternet.com" }, "date": null, "subject": "Re: Gene Wolfe material request", "in_reply_to": "<3r62hv$bds@quandong.itd.adelaide.edu.au>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": " I'm beginning to write and compile a Web page devoted to the work of Gene\n Wolfe, and I've only been able to find three Wolfe-related files on the\n Net. Of course, I'm going to add my own, but if anyone else has any files\n that might be useful, please send 'em over. Thanks." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "One of my projects for the next week or so is to finally finish the\nDistribution Tape of interviews from the Minneapolis World Fantasy Con\n(93?), including Gene Wolfe. The interview with Wolfe was so good I'm\ngoing to use the whole thing on the second side.\n\nThis isn't a web site, but will be added to the list of tapes available,\nthe current version of which is at\nhttp://nam.ing.com:80/minicon30/shockwave-faq.html" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": " Incidentally, what's the copyright situation where book covers are \n concerned? I'm fairly sure that quoting from book reviews is OK, but\n publishers might get a bit miffed if I scan in whole covers." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "The 'copyright situation' is that you can't use them. Unless you get\npermission, which is unlikely, but you might as well ask; they might be\nlooser about electronic reproduction." } ] }, { "message_id": "<802817075snz@keris.demon.co.uk>", "from": { "name": "Chris Croughton", "address": "chris at keris.demon.co.uk" }, "date": null, "subject": "Re: Gene Wolfe material request", "in_reply_to": "<3r62hv$bds@quandong.itd.adelaide.edu.au>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Incidentally, what's the copyright situation where book covers are\nconcerned? I'm fairly sure that quoting from book reviews is OK, but\npublishers might get a bit miffed if I scan in whole covers." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I don't know about the publishers, but the artists certainly would be\n'miffed', to say the least. In short, unless you have their permission\n(in writing) to do it, you are on very dangerous ground, and some\nartists will certainly sue (and win) over such things.\n\nContact the publisher, and through them the artist (the publisher may\nalso have rights in addition to those of the artists).\n\nAs far as quoting is concerned, the Berne Convention on copyright (to\nwhich America is signatory) states that quoting a limited section of a\nwork \"for puroses of review\" is OK. However, if you are quoting a whole\nbook review, the 'work' in question would be that review and the\ncopyright holder of that (which might be the author or the publisher if\nthey were under contract) would have their own rights.\n\nAlso, you could try asking on rec.arts.sf.written where there are\nseveral people who work for publishers for their opinion, the issue of\nWeb pages is one that will need to be resolved and there may be\nprecedents already set which are outside the current legislation.\n\n***********************************************************************\n* chris at keris.demon.co.uk * *\n* chriscr at cix.compulink.co.uk * FIAWOL (Filking Is A Way Of Life) *" } ] }, { "message_id": "<3rfj6a$71@panix2.panix.com>", "from": { "name": "P Nielsen Hayden", "address": "pnh at tor.com" }, "date": null, "subject": "Re: Gene Wolfe material request", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "romm at winternet.com (David E Romm) writes:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": " Incidentally, what's the copyright situation where book covers are \n concerned? I'm fairly sure that quoting from book reviews is OK, but\n publishers might get a bit miffed if I scan in whole covers." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "The 'copyright situation' is that you can't use them. Unless you get\npermission, which is unlikely, but you might as well ask; they might be\nlooser about electronic reproduction." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Actually I wouldn't be so hasty. Newspapers and magazine frequently\nreproduce covers when reviewing books without getting any special\npermission. Our policy regarding Web pages is that while we reserve the\nright to withhold permission for any reason, by and large you can reproduce\nour covers in some appropriate context (i.e., a page about the author, not\njust for decoration) _as long as_ you reproduce the whole front cover, type\nand all. You may not just excerpt the art.\n\n-----\nPatrick Nielsen Hayden: pnh at tor.com : opinions mine\nhttp://www.panix.com/~pnh : http://www.tor.com" } ] }, { "message_id": "<3rfj9t$bd@panix2.panix.com>", "from": { "name": "P Nielsen Hayden", "address": "pnh at tor.com" }, "date": null, "subject": "Re: Gene Wolfe material request", "in_reply_to": "<802817075snz@keris.demon.co.uk>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Chris Croughton writes:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Incidentally, what's the copyright situation where book covers are\nconcerned? I'm fairly sure that quoting from book reviews is OK, but\npublishers might get a bit miffed if I scan in whole covers." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "I don't know about the publishers, but the artists certainly would be\n'miffed', to say the least. In short, unless you have their permission\n(in writing) to do it, you are on very dangerous ground, and some\nartists will certainly sue (and win) over such things." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "See my other post from today in this thread. Chris Croughton's remarks\nprompt me to add that when we license art for cover purposes, we reserve the\nright to use that art in promoting the book as well. I think most\npublishers do.\n\n-----\nPatrick Nielsen Hayden: pnh at tor.com : opinions mine\nhttp://www.panix.com/~pnh : http://www.tor.com" } ] } ] }