Orbital mechanics The Whorl list — 1 messages, 1 voices, 06 Sep 2000 https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/whorl/1016 Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. ============================================================================== Adam Stephanides — 06 Sep 2000, 11:40 > Alastair Reynolds wrote: > Re: the orbital mechanics of Green/Blue - wasn't the best explanation, > as worked out by someone here, that they're analogous to our moon and > its small satellite partner Cruithne? It was pointed out that this > had been written up (in Nature I think) early enough for Wolfe > to have incorporated it into the series. I was the one who suggested Cruithne as relevant to the Blue/Green question. (A couple of clarifications: it's not Earth's moon but Earth that Cruithne is a companion of; and it's not a satellite of Earth, but rather shares Earth's orbit in a sense, although its actual orbit is a good deal more complicated.) I argued that something like Cruithne's orbit would explain the data in OBW, including the indications that at conjunction Green moves perceptibly (from Blue) with respect to the fixed stars in the course of a night. However, nobody else seemed to agree about Green's movement, or indeed about Cruithne as a likely model. Or if they did, they didn't post it. > Or was there some fatal flaw in that idea? Not that I recall; people just didn't go for it. The problem with this stuff (one reason why I stopped working on it) is that you're dealing not with what is possible or probable, but with what Wolfe thought was possible or probable, and we have no way of knowing that short of asking him. (The same applies to the inhumi transportation question.) > And Robert Borski wrote: > Also for mantis: where does the Whorl orbit in your opinion? Around Blue? > Green? Or some Lagrange point between (or outside?) the binary planet > system? As I once posted, the fact that conjunction between Blue and Green occurs only once every six years seems clearly to imply that Blue and Green do not form a binary system, but orbit the Short Sun independently; and this seems to be the consensus on the list, as well. As for the Whorl, the since its conjunctions with Blue are even rarer, and it approaches less closely to Green at conjunction, I assumed that it too orbited the Short Sun independently. Do you have any reason for thinking otherwise? --Adam *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------