# IGJ and Lune's orbit *The Whorl list — 1 messages, 1 voices, 30 Oct 2000* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Michael Andre-Driussi *30 Oct 2000, 06:21* One of the neat things about the visit to Urth is the way that the visitors give us a different, objective view of Nessus and the dying Old Sun. They give new figures on the ruinification of Nessus, the size, timeframe, and all that--they really are our stand-ins, doing exactly what we Wolfe readers would do if given the chance. And when they notice how bloated the Old Sun is, we get the inference of another piece of the Lune's orbit puzzle (in fact, it might be the main reason why Lune is so much closer to Urth than the Moon is to Earth): it has to be, in order to fully eclipse the bloated Old Sun! =mantis= *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. ---