# during our wait for RTTW *The Whorl list — 2 messages, 2 voices, 11 Dec 2000* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### shannon wilde *11 Dec 2000, 10:55* Like Mr. Lebling aka Vizcacha, I also ordered the _Dying Earth_ omnibus. The pleasure of these tales remains undimmed though I first discovered them while considerably shorter. But a spaceship? Heehee, hopefully it will lead more people to sample its riches than the magical spacecastle or something too fantasyesque. Someone has probably already brought this up, but there is a truly neato (and a bit Wolfean) webpuzzle out there called _Planetarium_ at www.beholder.com (I think that's right-might be co.uk). I think it will appeal to most denizens of this list, since it involves surreal plot convolutions and imagery, plus a bonanza of embedded and entwined word and logic puzzles-whoopee! Best of all, it comes in 12 weekly installments, so by the time you're through, RTTW should be around. I surely have high hopes for RTTW...the Short Sun series, while undisputably the work of a master, has so far given me brain cramps, as well as leaving me emotionally chilly. Well, I suppose Wolfe had been spoiling me. I do love the series, but it's a different sort of love. BTW, I just read _The Gift_ by Patrick O'Leary, and then promptly reread it. Wow. Thank you, sir. --- ### William Ansley *11 Dec 2000, 23:09 · follows shannon wilde* > At 10:55 AM -0800 12/11/00, shannon wilde wrote: > Someone has probably already brought > this up, but there is a truly neato (and a bit > Wolfean) webpuzzle out there called _Planetarium_ at > www.beholder.com (I think that's right-might be > co.uk). I think it will appeal to most denizens of > this list, since it involves surreal plot convolutions > and imagery, plus a bonanza of embedded and entwined > word and logic puzzles-whoopee! No one else has mentioned this web site that I am aware of. The URL for the Planetarium site is: http://www.beholder.co.uk/ beholder.com is something else entirely. I haven't had a chance to actually look at the site yet, but I look forward to it. ``` William Ansley *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. ``` ---