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This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "whorl", "thread": { "id": 1098, "subject": "RTTW Questions (Spoilers- No Spoiler Space)", "messages": 3, "voices": 3, "first": "2001-02-05T05:27:46+00:00", "last": "2001-02-05T13:11:01+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Tim Boolos", "address": "timboolos at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2001-02-05T05:27:46+00:00", "subject": "(whorl) RTTW Questions (Spoilers- No Spoiler Space)", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I guess I'll start.\n\nFirst, RTTW was the most fulfilling end to a series\nthat I have ever read. I was in awe of the whole\nscope of what he accomplished and the ending with\nRemora surprised me. Yes, I'll admit it I missed all\nthe clues and was shaken when I realized the impact of\nthat conversation with Remora. I still can't get over\nhow involved I was with the character and yet never\nfigured out truly what was going on.\n\nSo, here are a few questions for wiser heads like Alga\nand Mantis and Borksi.\n\nMaybe I missed it, but why did the 'divine' Silk\npossess Pig?\n\nAre we now to accept that the Ghost of Patera Pike at\nthe manteion was in fact a ghost?\n\nWhat was the deal with Dr. Crane's ghost? Was it\nbrought on solely by being at/in Sick Bay?\n\n\"I would never have used it while Nettle was alive\",\nconfused me, Jahlee didn't kill Nettle, did she? \nDidn't Nettle go with Silk and Marble?\n\nWhere was the Whorl going and why? Aren't all/most of\nthe landers gone? If so why leave?\n\nIf Silk is so GOOD, as Hoof and Clute suggest (and I\nbelieve, as well) why did he arrange to kill so many\nInhumu, in the city on Green, and at the wedding? One\nwould think a saint would seek another way. Also \"the\nmen will be waiting for me to invade my son's\nvillage\"? What was that all about?\n\nWhat happened to Chenille and/or Auk? How did Oreb\nget a black ring that morphed into Seawrak's ring?\n\nFinally the scene of Hyacinth's body. What happened? \nIt seems from the wounds that needed binding that Silk\nmay indeed have committed/attempted, but surely the\nmere entrance to Silk's body of Horn's spirit wasn't\nenough for the body to physically recover. Maybe I'm\nlooking at this wrong and the cuts were incidental to\nHyacinth's funeral sacrafice, but I've thought since\nIGJ that Silk was contemplating/committing suicide.\n\nI'm sure there are more (and more important\nquestions), but these ought to get us going for a\nwhile.\n\nEmrys" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "David DiGiacomo", "address": "dd at adobe.com" }, "date": "2001-02-05T08:10:09+00:00", "subject": "(whorl) Re: RTTW Questions (Spoilers- No Spoiler Space)", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "From: Tim Boolos \nSubject: RTTW Questions (Spoilers- No Spoiler Space)" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "So, here are a few questions for wiser heads like Alga\nand Mantis and Borksi." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I certainly don't qualify, but I won't let that stop me." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Maybe I missed it, but why did the 'divine' Silk\npossess Pig?" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "He was observing through the window as usual, and saw Pig kill the augur.\nIt seems in character for him to enter Pig to understand/save him." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Are we now to accept that the Ghost of Patera Pike at\nthe manteion was in fact a ghost?" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "A manifestation of the Neighbors? (OK, not enough limbs.)" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "What was the deal with Dr. Crane's ghost? Was it\nbrought on solely by being at/in Sick Bay?" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Perhaps just a memory rather than a ghost." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "\"I would never have used it while Nettle was alive\",\nconfused me, Jahlee didn't kill Nettle, did she? \nDidn't Nettle go with Silk and Marble?" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "That confused me also, but in fact he didn't \"use it\", so the statement\ndoesn't imply that Nettle is dead." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Where was the Whorl going and why? Aren't all/most of\nthe landers gone? If so why leave?" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "To another star, to continue the plan of Passilk. We don't know how many\nlanders are left, where they are, or if it's possible to construct new\nones. Sequel alert :-)" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "If Silk is so GOOD, as Hoof and Clute suggest (and I\nbelieve, as well) why did he arrange to kill so many\nInhumu, in the city on Green, and at the wedding? One\nwould think a saint would seek another way." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Perhaps Horn killed the Inhumu on Green.\n\nAfter the wedding, he claims that he didn't intend the battle - that he\nwished to kill only himself. Of course, he did invite Gyrfalcon." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Also \"the men will be waiting for me to invade my son's\nvillage\"? What was that all about?" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Horn led his bandits against Sinew's village to try to find a waveguide\ncoupling to repair the lander on Green. (But why wouldn't Sinew give his\nfather whatever waveguide accessories he had? Just out of spite?)" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "What happened to Chenille and/or Auk?" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "We can hope that Horn arranged to free them on Green." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "How did Oreb get a black ring that morphed into Seawrak's ring?" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I think the Mother gave it to Scylla, as she had given Seawrack the silver\nring." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Finally the scene of Hyacinth's body. What happened? \nIt seems from the wounds that needed binding that Silk\nmay indeed have committed/attempted, but surely the\nmere entrance to Silk's body of Horn's spirit wasn't\nenough for the body to physically recover." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Horn bound Silk's wounds with Hyacinth's hanky, and received first aid\nfrom the corn farmer's wife and Tansy. We know that Silk's body has\nunusual recuperative powers.\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Alex David Groce", "address": "alex_groce at gs246.sp.cs.cmu.edu" }, "date": "2001-02-05T13:11:01+00:00", "subject": "Re: (whorl) Re: RTTW Questions (Spoilers- No Spoiler Space)", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I think the very first thing I should do is eat crow (or, perhaps\nnight chough) for having pooh-poohed the whole Scylla is in Oreb\nthing." }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "\"And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.\" John 8:32\n--\nAlex David Groce (agroce+ at cs.cmu.edu)\nPh.D. Student, Carnegie Mellon University - Computer Science Department\n8112 Wean Hall (412)-268-3066\nhttp://www.cs.cmu.edu/~agroce\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun." } ] } ] }