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  "thread": {
    "id": 1104,
    "subject": "Lily O Lily",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "2001-02-06T15:05:42+00:00",
    "last": "2001-02-08T04:38:39+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0012-0133@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Dan Parmenter",
        "address": "dan at lec.com"
      },
      "date": "2001-02-06T15:05:42+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) Lily O Lily",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "From: \"Endymion9\" <endymion9 at mindspring.com>\nI can understand Silk's attraction to Hy.  She is the beautiful (movie\nstar/pin up girl/prostitute) that many a young man develops a crush on.  She\nis his \"Picture of Lily.\"  But as the father says to the son in that Who\nsong, \"Son now don't be silly.\""
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          "text": "Dennis, that's brilliant!  And how about the rest of the song?\n\n\"She's been dead since 1929\"\nOh, how I cried that night\nIf only I'd been born in Lily's time\nIt would have been alright\n\nFor me and Lily are together in my dreams\nAnd I ask you, \"Hey mister, have you ever seen\"\n\"Pictures of Lily?\"\n\nIt's almost too perfect.  \"Lily\" fits the Vironese naming convention\nas well as the Thieves' Cant; and of course since Hyacinth is partly\nKypris, this fits the subject of the song - falling in love with the\nimage of a woman long-dead.\n\nAnd here I thought that the perfect Vironese song would be Oreb's take\non the Wailers' classic \"No Woman.  No Cry\".\n\nShellac\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
        }
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    },
    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0012-0140@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Endymion9",
        "address": "endymion9 at mindspring.com"
      },
      "date": "2001-02-08T04:38:39+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) Re: Lily O Lily",
      "in_reply_to": "<whorl-v0012-0133@digest.urth.net>",
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          "text": "Dan Parmenter scribed:"
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          "text": "And how about the rest of the song?\n\n\"She's been dead since 1929\"\nOh, how I cried that night\nIf only I'd been born in Lily's time\nIt would have been alright\n\nFor me and Lily are together in my dreams\nAnd I ask you, \"Hey mister, have you ever seen\"\n\"Pictures of Lily?\"\n\nIt's almost too perfect.  \"Lily\" fits the Vironese naming convention\nas well as the Thieves' Cant; and of course since Hyacinth is partly\nKypris, this fits the subject of the song - falling in love with the\nimage of a woman long-dead."
        },
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          "text": "Dan.  Thanks for filling in the rest of the song.  I hadn't carried it to\nthat progression and much enjoyed your insight. :)\n\nDennis/Endy  (Now struggling up to p. 219 in RTTW).\nhttp://home.mindspring.com/~endymion9/index.htm\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
        }
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