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  "thread": {
    "id": 1109,
    "subject": "RTTW - spoilers",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "2001-02-08T12:44:26+00:00",
    "last": "2001-02-08T12:51:40+00:00"
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    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0012-0142@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Peter Westlake",
        "address": "peter at harlequin.co.uk"
      },
      "date": "2001-02-08T12:44:26+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) RTTW - spoilers",
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          "text": "I've just finished it, and I was getting really worried as the end\napproached without Silk turning up. All along I did wonder if he\never would, or whether Horn would realize that the answer to Viron's\nproblems lay at home and turn back, leaving Silk to become a mythical\nhero-figure. Not that he isn't that as well, of course. Who would have\nthought old Patera Remora would have the answer!\n\nWow.\n\nAlso, a moment or two after I put the book down, I realized (as many\nothers here have noted) the answer to the question of why Horn doesn't\nrealize he is Silk. In retrospect, the very question is a contradiction!\nIt is, of course Silk - \"a man whose soul has died\" - who doesn't want\nto admit that that's who he is. That phrase troubled me, because it\nsuggested that Silk's spirit really had gone for ever. In reality it\nwas a metaphor for heartbreak, extreme grief, and wanting to die. I'll\nhave to read the whole thing all over again now.\n\nThere was one loose end: why did the Mother create a siren? Horn says\nthat it's very important to know whether her intentions were hostile\nor not. And what is the connection between her and the Urthly Scylla,\nand between that Scylla and Cilinia? They clearly aren't the same\nperson. Okay, that's more than one loose end.\n\nWhy does Nettle go off in the Whorl at the end, too?\n\nSpectacled Bear.\n\nP.S. I told you Patera Pike's ghost was just Patera Pike's ghost :-)\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
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      "message_id": "<whorl-v0012-0144@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Spectacled Bear",
        "address": "spectacled.bear at pobox.com"
      },
      "date": "2001-02-08T12:51:40+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) RTTW - spoilers",
      "in_reply_to": "<whorl-v0012-0142@digest.urth.net>",
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          "text": "I've just finished it, and I was getting really worried as the end\napproached without Silk turning up. All along I did wonder if he\never would, or whether Horn would realize that the answer to Viron's\nproblems lay at home and turn back, leaving Silk to become a mythical\nhero-figure. Not that he isn't that as well, of course. Who would have\nthought old Patera Remora would have the answer!\n\nWow.\n\nAlso, a moment or two after I put the book down, I realized (as many\nothers here have noted) the answer to the question of why Horn doesn't\nrealize he is Silk. In retrospect, the very question is a contradiction!\nIt is, of course Silk - \"a man whose soul has died\" - who doesn't want\nto admit that that's who he is. That phrase troubled me, because it\nsuggested that Silk's spirit really had gone for ever. In reality it\nwas a metaphor for heartbreak, extreme grief, and wanting to die. I'll\nhave to read the whole thing all over again now.\n\nThere was one loose end: why did the Mother create a siren? Horn says\nthat it's very important to know whether her intentions were hostile\nor not. And what is the connection between her and the Urthly Scylla,\nand between that Scylla and Cilinia? They clearly aren't the same\nperson. Okay, that's more than one loose end.\n\nWhy does Nettle go off in the Whorl at the end, too?\n\nSpectacled Bear.\n\nP.S. I told you Patera Pike's ghost was just Patera Pike's ghost :-)"
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