[big spoiler] Narrative technique in _Return_, and trilogity The Whorl list — 2 messages, 1 voices, 08 Feb 2001 https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/whorl/1113 Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. ============================================================================== Dan Schmidt — 08 Feb 2001, 12:21 Adam Stephanides writes: | on 2/8/01 6:35 AM, Dan Rabin at wolfe-lists at danrabin.com wrote: | | > In _Return_, we pretty much get a chapter-by-chapter alternation | > between the homeward-bound story and the _Whorl_ story, told in | > very different styles. Homecoming-protagonist pretty much | > continues his persona from _Green's_, but as Whorl-narrator he | > adopts a very mannered avoidance of identification with the | > Whorl-protagonist: he never names that person (always referred to | > via third-person pronouns or as "the man who..."). | | Not quite. The third-person sections are not written by the | Homecoming-protagonist, but by the editors of BoTSS, Hoof, Hide and their | wives, as stated in the Afterword. I thought the Afterword said that they only wrote the last couple of Whorl chapters (after Horn stopped writing). -- http://www.dfan.org *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan Schmidt — 08 Feb 2001, 14:29 follows, by subject match Dan Schmidt Adam Stephanides writes: | on 2/8/01 5:21 PM, Dan Schmidt at dfan at harmonixmusic.com wrote: | | > Adam Stephanides writes: | > | > | Not quite. The third-person sections are not written by the | > | Homecoming-protagonist, but by the editors of BoTSS, Hoof, Hide | > | and their wives, as stated in the Afterword. | > | > I thought the Afterword said that they only wrote the last couple of | > Whorl chapters (after Horn stopped writing). | | No: the editors write: "He [the protagonist] left us no written record of | his brief sojourns in Old Viron and the West Pole, but he spoke of them | often. In this volume we have re-created them to the best of our ability, | based upon these conversations." (p. 409) OK, we're remembering the same text, but interpreting it differently. I took that to mean that he did write about his earlier time in the Whorl (e.g., meeting Pig and Hound) but the editors picked it up after he arrived in Old Viron. Otherwise I would have expected them to write 'the Whorl' rather than 'Old Viron and the West Pole'. -- http://www.dfan.org *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------