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  "thread": {
    "id": 112,
    "subject": "Frags & Techies",
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    "first": "1997-02-21T02:55:00+00:00",
    "last": "1997-02-21T02:55:00+00:00"
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      "message_id": "<whorl-v0003-0162@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "m.driussi",
        "address": "m.driussi at genie.com"
      },
      "date": "1997-02-21T02:55:00+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) Frags & Techies",
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          "text": "Reply:  Item #8204225 from WHORL at LISTS.BEST.COM@INET#\n\nVizcacha (!wow!),\n\nI agree with you re: psychic fragments contaminating gods and mortals\nalike.  This is one vector I can see that allows lovey-dovey Kypris\nto get the ninja training we expect from Sphigx--they fought at some\ntime in the past, like girls do sometimes (link to Hyacinth and\nChenille), and Kypris learned the same tricks that Scylla has, for\ninstance.  All leading back (imho) to Severian's discussion with Ultan\nabout holograms; and the way that Tzadkiel can fragment and recombine.\n\nSince Pas was the only one of the human monsters to take a god name,\nhe evolved towards becoming like that god.  The others evolved along\ntheir monster names.\n\nRe: alga's technicians turning off the theophanies.  While I agree\nwith your sentiment about there being some kind of physical (physics\nrelated) relationship between human sacrifice and theophanies, alga\nhas a very strong case here.  Quetzal says,\n\n\"Before Kypris manifested here on Scylsday, the Windows of our city\nhad been empty for decades.  I can't take credit for that, it wasn't\nmy doing.  But I've done everything in my power to prevent theophanies.\nIt hasn't been much, but I've done what I could.  I proscribed human\nsacrifice, and got it made law, for one thing.  I admit I'm proud of\nthat\" (III, ch. 4, 147).\n\nSo alga appears to be correct-- a non-Quetzal agency did something that\nstopped the gods from coming around.  But Quetzal also seems to say that\nhuman sacrifice is one of the factors that will awaken the sleeping gods,\nor contribute to theophanies.\n\nThus both sides are correct, yet the mystery remains: who put the\ngods to sleep?  (Gee, maybe it had to do with the switch to card\ncurrency?  Hadn't thought of that before.  The Lemuroid conspirators?)\n\nJerboa sacrificed a child?  I'll have to look into that!\n\n=mantis=\n\nQuestions or problems to whorl-owner at lists.best.com"
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