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This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "whorl", "thread": { "id": 1161, "subject": "Inhumi (RTTWspoilers)", "messages": 2, "voices": 2, "first": "2001-02-14T13:16:35+00:00", "last": "2001-02-17T13:15:30+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Robert Borski", "address": "rborski at charter.net" }, "date": "2001-02-14T13:16:35+00:00", "subject": "Re: (whorl) Inhumi (RTTWspoilers)", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Fernando Gouvea having written:\n\n\n\nI'm sort of with Fernando here. Because I still don't believe the inhumi fly\nbetween planets during conjunctions, and that it's this well-kept secret\nthat's somehow involved with neutralizing or eradicating the inhumi on Blue.\n\nYes, we have Jahlee talking about testing her youthful wings and endurance\nfor the Crossing. But in the same passage, when Horn asks her, \"Before you\ncame the first time?\" author Wolfe very cryptically has Horn note, \"She did\nnot answer.\" Jahlee would also have us believe that those inhumi lacking\nendurance burn up when they hit Blue's atmosphere. \"That little scratch of\nfire, and you're gone forever.\" Right. And thunder is Pas breaking wind.\n(Are we also to believe that Blue's skies are marred by these \"little\nscratches of fire\" only during times of conjunction?)\n\nJahlee further notes that she trained \"for years, and there were days when I\ncouldn't even get up high above the clouds. There are strong winds at this\nlevel, and the air is thin.\" In space, however, there is no air, thin or\notherwise--so why should that make a difference?\n\nHow also do we explain the death of Fava, who freezes to death in the snow,\nand Jahlee who almost does so? If the equitorial, reptile-like inhumi can\nwithstand the froric depths of space, why can't they tolerate the colder\nclimes of \"frigid, hostile Blue,\" as Jahlee calls it?\n\nAnswer: because they don't fly between worlds, any more than they flew to\nthe Whorl. In the latter case we learn that the Neighbors sent them for\npurposes of reconnaissance. It seems likely that whatever technology was\ninvolved there--and if the inhumi have supped on the Neighbors, one would\nthink they would have access to their technosecrets--is still being used by\nthe inhumi of Horn's time, if not from the very beginning.\n\nRobert Borski\n\n\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "James Jordan", "address": "jbjordan at gnt.net" }, "date": "2001-02-17T13:15:30+00:00", "subject": "Re: (whorl) Inhumi (RTTWspoilers)", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "This theory makes a great deal of sense to me. FWIW. So does your notion \nthat Pig is a godling and that Pig may have \"killed\" Silk. It does seem \nthat Pig once had eyes, and lost them. If your Tartaros theory is correct, \nI'd say Tartaros moved into him after the loss of those eyes, as into a fit \nhost.\n Another point. Horn says he learned that the Neighbors have a \nweird sense of humor. I'd say that the great manifestation of that is their \nputting Horn into Silk's body.\n\nNutria" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "At 01:16 PM 2/14/2001 -0600, you wrote:\nFernando Gouvea having written:\n\n\n\nI'm sort of with Fernando here. Because I still don't believe the inhumi fly\nbetween planets during conjunctions, and that it's this well-kept secret\nthat's somehow involved with neutralizing or eradicating the inhumi on Blue.\n\nYes, we have Jahlee talking about testing her youthful wings and endurance\nfor the Crossing. But in the same passage, when Horn asks her, \"Before you\ncame the first time?\" author Wolfe very cryptically has Horn note, \"She did\nnot answer.\" Jahlee would also have us believe that those inhumi lacking\nendurance burn up when they hit Blue's atmosphere. \"That little scratch of\nfire, and you're gone forever.\" Right. And thunder is Pas breaking wind.\n(Are we also to believe that Blue's skies are marred by these \"little\nscratches of fire\" only during times of conjunction?)\n\nJahlee further notes that she trained \"for years, and there were days when I\ncouldn't even get up high above the clouds. There are strong winds at this\nlevel, and the air is thin.\" In space, however, there is no air, thin or\notherwise--so why should that make a difference?\n\nHow also do we explain the death of Fava, who freezes to death in the snow,\nand Jahlee who almost does so? If the equitorial, reptile-like inhumi can\nwithstand the froric depths of space, why can't they tolerate the colder\nclimes of \"frigid, hostile Blue,\" as Jahlee calls it?\n\nAnswer: because they don't fly between worlds, any more than they flew to\nthe Whorl. In the latter case we learn that the Neighbors sent them for\npurposes of reconnaissance. It seems likely that whatever technology was\ninvolved there--and if the inhumi have supped on the Neighbors, one would\nthink they would have access to their technosecrets--is still being used by\nthe inhumi of Horn's time, if not from the very beginning.\n\nRobert Borski\n\n\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun." } ] } ] }