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    "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/whorl/118",
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  "thread": {
    "id": 118,
    "subject": "Marble, Trivs",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "1997-02-23T06:29:00+00:00",
    "last": "1997-02-23T06:29:00+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0003-0169@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Alice Turner",
        "address": "al at interport.net"
      },
      "date": "1997-02-23T06:29:00+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) Marble, Trivs",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Re: adding Mint to the Marble Rose.  Start (IV, 313).  Then (IV,\n380).  Still doubtful?  See (II, 208).  Neat, huh?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": " \n Mantis, I don't think so. I had meant to point out that IV,379 (not 380)\n was clearly a typo, a proofer's error, and I think 313 (which I hadn't\n caught) is the same and that they both ought to be corrected before the\n paperback comes out. II,208 is one of Silk's fever dreams, of which there\n are several that merge identities--it can't be taken as proof of anything.\n \n Sorry, I did get it backward: Magnesia is Marble's \"maiden\"\n (pre-ordination) name. Molybdenum is the name of Hammersmith's former\n sweetie that she pretends to be.\n \n And I also erred in limiting Kypris to one screen in the face of my own\n theophany list (I wrote my last post just before going to the hospital for\n a few days for an infection, and obviously I was a bit light-headed\n myself--see Silk above). But that doesn't counter my general observation,\n which is that Kypris, and Kypris alone of the gods, was active before\n Mamelta did a fix-it."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "You ignore my paraphrasing of a Marble lie--I'm not sure why,\nbecause you deem it not \"the\" important lie (that of claiming to be\nMoly)?  The lie I went on about was a lie she was shrived (shriven?) for\nmany times, which makes it seem of some import; it is a case where we\nhave\nenough pieces to attempt to evaluate or judge the mendacity involved, to\n try\nto see how Marble is perceiving things; etc.  Oh well."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": " \n I didn't exactly ignore it, I meant that it wasn't the one that was\n upsetting her--and Silk too. That was the name change, quite clearly\n (IV,337, 359). Actually, I don't quite understand the shriving one. Could\n you spell it out?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Then again, I don't know if you intended it, but your message seems\nto suggest that \"image free\" Sphigx of militaristic Trivigaunte is\nactually a Tartaros run operation.  Which I could certainly\nentertain. (Prior to this moment, I thought Tartaros was sleeping\nala Cthulhu, like all the other major gods.  Except for the dead one,\nof course.  He's dead.)"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": " \n If this is me you're still addressing: no, I never intended that, and,\nyes,\n I do think that Tartaros, like every other god but Kypris, was indeed\n deactivated or \"sleeping\" up until Mamelta's repairs. (And I suspect that\nsome of  them, those we never meet, are still deactivated.)"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Do you think that the rebellion on the Whorl anticipates (echoes) the\nrebellion on Urth?  Do you think that the end results are more\ndifferent or more similar on post-exodus Whorl and post-Monarch Urth?\nDo you think it is a trap to think such thoughts?  Hmmm."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": " \n No. Different. Yes.\n \n -alga-\n \n \n\nQuestions or problems to whorl-owner at lists.best.com"
        }
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