# Marble, Trivs *The Whorl list — 1 messages, 1 voices, 23 Feb 1997* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Alice Turner *23 Feb 1997, 06:29* > Re: adding Mint to the Marble Rose. Start (IV, 313). Then (IV, > 380). Still doubtful? See (II, 208). Neat, huh? Mantis, I don't think so. I had meant to point out that IV,379 (not 380) was clearly a typo, a proofer's error, and I think 313 (which I hadn't caught) is the same and that they both ought to be corrected before the paperback comes out. II,208 is one of Silk's fever dreams, of which there are several that merge identities--it can't be taken as proof of anything. Sorry, I did get it backward: Magnesia is Marble's "maiden" (pre-ordination) name. Molybdenum is the name of Hammersmith's former sweetie that she pretends to be. And I also erred in limiting Kypris to one screen in the face of my own theophany list (I wrote my last post just before going to the hospital for a few days for an infection, and obviously I was a bit light-headed myself--see Silk above). But that doesn't counter my general observation, which is that Kypris, and Kypris alone of the gods, was active before Mamelta did a fix-it. > You ignore my paraphrasing of a Marble lie--I'm not sure why, > because you deem it not "the" important lie (that of claiming to be > Moly)? The lie I went on about was a lie she was shrived (shriven?) for > many times, which makes it seem of some import; it is a case where we > have > enough pieces to attempt to evaluate or judge the mendacity involved, to > try > to see how Marble is perceiving things; etc. Oh well. I didn't exactly ignore it, I meant that it wasn't the one that was upsetting her--and Silk too. That was the name change, quite clearly (IV,337, 359). Actually, I don't quite understand the shriving one. Could you spell it out? > Then again, I don't know if you intended it, but your message seems > to suggest that "image free" Sphigx of militaristic Trivigaunte is > actually a Tartaros run operation. Which I could certainly > entertain. (Prior to this moment, I thought Tartaros was sleeping > ala Cthulhu, like all the other major gods. Except for the dead one, > of course. He's dead.) If this is me you're still addressing: no, I never intended that, and, yes, I do think that Tartaros, like every other god but Kypris, was indeed deactivated or "sleeping" up until Mamelta's repairs. (And I suspect that some of them, those we never meet, are still deactivated.) > Do you think that the rebellion on the Whorl anticipates (echoes) the > rebellion on Urth? Do you think that the end results are more > different or more similar on post-exodus Whorl and post-Monarch Urth? > Do you think it is a trap to think such thoughts? Hmmm. No. Different. Yes. -alga- Questions or problems to whorl-owner at lists.best.com ---