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  "thread": {
    "id": 1260,
    "subject": "(no subject)",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "2001-03-12T08:41:50+00:00",
    "last": "2001-03-12T08:41:50+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0012-0425@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes",
        "address": "ddanehy at siebel.com"
      },
      "date": "2001-03-12T08:41:50+00:00",
      "subject": "RE: (whorl)",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
      "blocks": [
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          "depth": 1,
          "text": "An Agnostic says:\n\n\"I don't know whether or not there's a God.\".\n\nA Militant Agnostic says:\n\n\"I don't know whether or not there's a God.  And neither \ndo you.\""
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "... so you're the guys who came over and burned a \nquestion mark on my lawn last fall?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "... did the exposition have to be so damn oblique\nthat many of the very knowledgeable people here\ndisagree about what happened?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Perhaps that was precisely the purpose? Not suggesting that \nWolfe is writing for/at this list (though I can think of at \nleast one case of an extraordinarily talented musician doing \nthe analogous thing, writing a song directed obliquely at an \nonline fan group); but that Wolfe deliberately might write a\nRorschach blot of a book, intentionally setting it up so that\nwhat you find in it depends even more than usual on what you\nbring to it."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Were Silk's injuries caused by an attempted suicide or a \nfight?  Both viewpoints have been argued here and I'm \nstill not sure which I believe.  I prefer a fight, since \nI just don't see sufficient motivation for Silk to \nattempt suicide.  He seems more aware than that."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Again, neither answer seems as likely as this: if you will\nreread the account of Orpine's \"final sacrifice,\" you will\nnote that gashing yourself is an accepted way of expressing \ngrief in Viron (as indeed it has been in some Urthly, uh, \nEarthly cultures). Silk, in a fit of grief and despair, \ntearing the room up and gashing himself seems to me the \nmost obvious answer."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "I also agree with those who deplored the fractured \nlocution of Wijzer, Olivine, etc.  It began to wear thin \nafter a while.  Especially Olivine.  "
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Yes: especially Olivine. Pig I found difficult but\ntolerable; I rather liked the Dorpish dialect, but I\nused to live around Lancaster County PA & Pencildutch\ndialect (which is how I read it) doesn't seem stilted\nor unnatural to me."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Quick question:  Does anyone know who originated the \nsaying \"The more I know people, the more I like \nanimals.\"?  I personally couldn't agree more..."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Le plus je connais des hommes, le plus j'aime ma\nchatte. -- Voltaire\n\n--Dan'l\n(who thinks misanthropy is a probable symptom\nof militant agnosticism, nyaaaah.)\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
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