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  "thread": {
    "id": 1313,
    "subject": "new member (*spoilers*)",
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    "first": "2001-04-02T01:35:47+00:00",
    "last": "2001-04-02T01:35:47+00:00"
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      "message_id": "<whorl-v0012-0524@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Jason Ingram",
        "address": "jingram at usc.edu"
      },
      "date": "2001-04-02T01:35:47+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) new member (*spoilers*)",
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          "text": "(There are some minor *spoilers* below.)\n\nHello, I'm new to this list and wanted to introduce myself.  I've \nmanaged to work through the most recent archive, and so will limit \nmyself to a couple of simple questions until I've been able to scour \nthe rest.\n\n--The second ring, the one Oreb brings to \"Horn\" in RTW, changes in \nform.  I didn't know quite what to make of that, and would be \ninterested in others' views.  The fact that the ring changes would \nseem to possess minor significance, but I'm not sure what that might \nbe.\n\n--I was curious about mixed references to \"Horn's\" eye(s) in earlier \nvolumes; based on RTW I hypothesize the following: \"Horn\" gives an \neye to Pig, returns to Blue, and functions with one eye at times, and \neither uses or wears the mechanical eye that he later gives to \nMaytera Marble at other times.  Have I missed something here?\n\nOne fact I unearthed in researching hyacinth: the plant can be used \nas Pig fodder.  (apropos of the Who song, it is also called 'water \nlily'.)\n\nIncidentally, I can see only an ironic reference--regarding \nhyacinth--to TSEliot's _The Waste Land_, in that the scene in the \nhyacinth garden references paralysis and failed communication. \nHowever,  some interpreters have argued the opposite.\n\nThe theme of mixing memory and desire is another matter.\n\nHappy to have found the list,\nJason\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
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