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  "thread": {
    "id": 1320,
    "subject": "Pas on Blue & Re:Mucor's fate",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "2001-04-05T18:36:59+00:00",
    "last": "2001-04-05T18:36:59+00:00"
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    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0012-0538@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Endymion9",
        "address": "endymion9 at mindspring.com"
      },
      "date": "2001-04-05T18:36:59+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) Re: Pas on Blue & Re:Mucor's fate",
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          "text": "Adam Stephanides wrote:\nDo you have any references for 2?  Yes, Horn clearly knows that he died on\nGreen, that he is in a different body, and that everybody thinks he's Silk.\nBut I don't remember any passages indicating that he has drawn the obvious\ninference that he is in Silk's body (prior to the talk with Remora).  Nor,\napart from the Pas-on-Blue statement, do I recall him saying anything that\nshows he knows that Silk's spirit has merged with his own."
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          "text": "Adam, the only references I have are the many you mentioned.  He knows\npeople think he looks like Silk, he knows people think he is Silk.  I am\njust inferring that he let's himself go only \"so far\" and his rational mind\nrealizes he is in Silk's body, but that his mind won't let him go the final\nstep as to what the implication of that means.  This is just a general\nfeeling from the many times his mind touches on the fact he looks like Silk\nnow.  No one passage where he says \"By god, I'm Silk.\""
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          "text": "maa32 wrote:\nSince I've only read the short sun books once (quickly) I'm sure I missed\nsomething, but in RttW it seemed to me that Mucor was quite dead and that\nher\nmanifestation on the whorl was just a spiritual residue.  Why else would\nMarble leave?  (I would re-read the 3rd person narrative sections, but I\ndon't\nhave the book with me).  Is Mucor explicitly around when Silk picks Marble\nup?\nShe doesn't show up at all in the \"present\" timeline of the text, does\nshe?\nThere's no reason for her to be left behind."
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          "text": "I had the same reaction and posted the question earlier, \"what ever happened\nto Mucor?\"  Others responded that they thought she was self sufficient and\nwas taking care of Marble, not the other way around, so Marble felt no\nproblem in leaving her to go to Olivine.  My gut still tells me different.\nI still have the feeling (I can't prove yet) that she died and that Wolfe\nwas trying to tell us that when her spirit appeared to Pig somehow.  I see\nher as another important female that Wolfe for some reason decided to just\neasily discard without explanation at the end of the story <shrug>.\n\n\n\n\nDennis/Endy\nhttp://home.mindspring.com/~endymion9/index.htm\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
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