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    "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/whorl/1323",
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  "thread": {
    "id": 1323,
    "subject": "Alga's complaint",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "2001-04-07T15:05:37+00:00",
    "last": "2001-04-08T00:57:47+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0012-0545@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "David DiGiacomo",
        "address": "dd at adobe.com"
      },
      "date": "2001-04-07T15:05:37+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) Re: Alga's complaint",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
      "blocks": [
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "This list has been struggling to find interpretations or\nexcuses for the author but, frankly, I think his editor should have\nkicked his ass and made him tow the line."
        },
        {
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          "text": "1. Alga, why do you think it's worse than any other Wolfe book?\nOr are you just tired of his tricks?\n\n2. I wonder how completely David Hartwell feels he needs to understand a\nWolfe book before he can publish it.  It doesn't seem that he has the\nluxury of reading through 4 or 5 times and then thinking it over for a\nwhile.  If he hasn't worked out all the puzzles (or even just the ending),\nhow can he edit effectively?  Does he demand spoilers?\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0012-0546@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "William Ansley",
        "address": "wansley at warwick.net"
      },
      "date": "2001-04-08T00:57:47+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (whorl) Re: Alga's complaint",
      "in_reply_to": "<whorl-v0012-0545@digest.urth.net>",
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          "depth": 1,
          "text": "At 3:05 PM -0800 4/7/01, David DiGiacomo wrote:\n1. Alga, why do you think it's worse than any other Wolfe book?\nOr are you just tired of his tricks?"
        },
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          "text": "I'm not alga, but but I have a similar feeling of disappointment with \nRttW and I want to address this question too.\n\nI think the best way for me to sum up why I didn't like RttW is that \nI felt cheated when it was over. I haven't felt that way after \nreading any of Wolfe's other novels. I have felt a little cheated at \nthe end of some of Wolfe's shorter works, although not to this extent.\n\nWhy do I feel cheated? There were just too many loose ends. And the \nbeginnings of most of the loose ends seemed to have no reason for \nbeing put in the trilogy in the first place.\n\nWhat do I mean by \"loose ends\"? Well, if I had the time and energy \n(which I currently do not and almost certainly will not) I believe I \ncould make up an impressively lengthy list. To take just one example, \nthe \"brother and sister\" section toward the end of OBW. Is there \nanyone here who understands it? Is there anyone here who feels that \nthe book/trilogy is a better work because this passage is in it?\n\nI have enjoyed some of Wolfe's most \"puzzling\" works, both those in \nwhich many of the puzzles seem to have solutions even when I couldn't \nfigure them out (such as _Peace_) and those in which many of the \npuzzles seem to have no solution or we are not given enough \ninformation to solve them (such as _The Fifth Head of Cerberus_). \nRttW however, just left me feeling frustrated.\n\nWilliam Ansley\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
        }
      ]
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