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This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "whorl", "thread": { "id": 1373, "subject": "Godling size", "messages": 4, "voices": 3, "first": "2001-04-19T10:19:39+00:00", "last": "2001-04-19T11:37:19+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "James Jordan", "address": "jbjordan4 at home.com" }, "date": "2001-04-19T11:18:52+00:00", "subject": "(whorl) Godling size", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "At 08:53 AM 4/19/2001 -0400, you wrote:\nI thought the main objection to the godlings is that in Act 1 (New Sun)\nthe author goes into detail about why anything that big would have to live\nin the sea or collapse under its own weight and then in Act 3 he presents\nus with such a creature without giving us any hint of how it is possible,\nor even a sense that we're supposed to see this as a physics-defying\nmiracle\n\n-Rostrum" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": " The gravity on the whorl is caused by centrifugal force. It is \npossible that the higher up you go, the less gravity there is? And how high \nup do you have to go? Is it possible that the large godling can exist \nbecause of this? I doubt if this is good enough, but maybe one of your more \nscientific types can address this.\n\nNutria\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes", "address": "ddanehy at siebel.com" }, "date": "2001-04-19T10:19:39+00:00", "subject": "RE: (whorl) Godling size", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Ratty Rote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": " The gravity on the whorl is caused by centrifugal force. It is \npossible that the higher up you go, the less gravity there is? And how\nhigh up do you have to go? Is it possible that the large godling can\nexist because of this? I doubt if this is good enough, but maybe one of\nyour more scientific types can address this." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Given (1) the size of the _Whorl_, and (2) the fact that people don't\nseem to moonwalk on the airship, I'd say this won't work. OTOH, the\ngodlings (at least, the one we see) isn't even as big as, say, an\napatosaur of the larger varieties, so I don't see any inherent problem\nwith them. The impression I get about the seadwellers in NEW is that\nthey are more like the size of young mountains.\n\n--Dan'l\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "George Terry", "address": "gmterry at ucdavis.edu" }, "date": "2001-04-19T11:16:00+00:00", "subject": "RE: (whorl) Godling size", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "However, Pig does state his origin as being in the Mountains that Look at \nMountains. This is much closer to pole, potentially an area of decreased \ngravity in this system...the other godlings, having come from the pole \nareas may also \"benefit\" from this effect." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "At 10:19 AM 4/19/2001, you wrote:\nRatty Rote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": " The gravity on the whorl is caused by centrifugal force. It is\npossible that the higher up you go, the less gravity there is? And how\nhigh up do you have to go? Is it possible that the large godling can\nexist because of this? I doubt if this is good enough, but maybe one of\nyour more scientific types can address this." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Given (1) the size of the _Whorl_, and (2) the fact that people don't\nseem to moonwalk on the airship, I'd say this won't work. OTOH, the\ngodlings (at least, the one we see) isn't even as big as, say, an\napatosaur of the larger varieties, so I don't see any inherent problem\nwith them. The impression I get about the seadwellers in NEW is that\nthey are more like the size of young mountains.\n\n--Dan'l\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes", "address": "ddanehy at siebel.com" }, "date": "2001-04-19T11:37:19+00:00", "subject": "RE: (whorl) Godling size", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "However, Pig does state his origin as being in the Mountains\nthat Look at Mountains. This is much closer to pole, potentially\nan area of decreased gravity in this system...the other godlings,\nhaving come from the pole areas may also \"benefit\" from this\neffect." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Wouldn't help him when he came to Viron, though.\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun." } ] } ] }