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  "thread": {
    "id": 1376,
    "subject": "About the secret of the inhumi, again (RTTW",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "2001-04-19T15:12:43+00:00",
    "last": "2001-04-24T13:29:42+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0012-0655@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "James Jordan",
        "address": "jbjordan4 at home.com"
      },
      "date": "2001-04-19T15:12:43+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (whorl) About the secret of the inhumi, again (RTTW",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "At 02:52 PM 4/19/2001 -0400,\nWombat wrote:\nB. If I am correct, it seems to me that this detail is supposed to be a\nmajor revelation about the nature of the secret, and key to understanding\nhow the humans on Blue and Green could fight the inhumi. But I keep failing\nto see how this detail transforms what we knew into \"a weapon too big to\nwield\"."
        },
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          "kind": "text",
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          "text": "         There've been a couple of suggestions.\n         1. Wiping out the inhumi would be so cruel that people would not \nbe able to bring themselves to do it. Or, it would require so much work \nthat humans would not be able to do it.\n         2. Human beings are too wicked to treat the inhumi rightly, saving \nand transforming them by offering our blood. Along these lines, I think \nAdam's fine post \"Dangling Thought Threads\" makes some good points, and I'm \ncoming around to his point of view on Horn and Silk.\n         3. One can view this as both true, as horns of a dilemma, and as \nan explanation of why the Neighbors departed.\n\nNutria\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0012-0714@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Spectacled Bear",
        "address": "spectacled.bear at pobox.com"
      },
      "date": "2001-04-24T13:29:42+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (whorl) About the secret of the inhumi, again (RTTW",
      "in_reply_to": "<whorl-v0012-0655@digest.urth.net>",
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          "depth": 1,
          "text": "At 15:49 2001-04-20, Adam Stephanides wrote:\non 4/19/01 1:52 PM, Kevin J. Maroney at kmaroney at ungames.com wrote:"
        },
        {
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          "depth": 2,
          "text": "In _Return to the Whorl_, Jahlee tells Nettle a secret about the inhumi,\nwhich, because of the structure of the story, we are led to believe is\n*the* secret which has been sketched out in the first two volumes. The only\ndetail new to her revelation is that it is the children of the inhumi who\ngain intelligence from the blood rather than the predators themselves.\n\nA. Am I correct that this detail was not present in any of the earlier open\ndiscussions of the secret?"
        },
        {
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          "text": "I believe so.  I don't recall it, in any case (though iirc a couple of\npassages can be seen in retrospect to hint at it); nor do I recall any of\nour discussions of the secret mentioning it."
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          "text": "That detail wasn't mentioned directly in the text, I'm sure, but we\ndid discuss it here. Have a look around August 2000 in the archives.\nAdam, you drew attention there to the Neighbour who takes Horn to the\nsewer saying that the Neighbours wanted to wake humans up, not to their\ndanger but to their safety. Horn only understands this after Krait tells\nhim the Secret, though it doesn't appear that the Neighbour is talking\nabout that directly, but about some other implication of the sewer. No\nidea what, though.\n\nPeter.\n\n\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
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