{ "export": { "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/whorl/1391", "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "whorl", "thread": { "id": 1391, "subject": "The Neighbors' other friends", "messages": 5, "voices": 3, "first": "2001-04-22T07:42:11+00:00", "last": "2001-04-23T12:32:52+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Nicholas Gevers", "address": "vermoulian at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2001-04-22T07:42:11+00:00", "subject": "(whorl) The Neighbors' other friends", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Another note on the Secret: does any human other than\nHorn/Silk have the ability to travel astrally, surely\na rare gift from the Neighbors? In other words, is\nthere anyone else who can lead human expeditions to\nattack the inhumi birthing pools on Green, once\nHorn/Silk has departed? Well, the answer is yes, there\nprobably is such a person, probably several. Taal has\nhad direct dealings with the Neighbors. Windcloud\nstates that he has other human friends besides Horn.\nThey're around, and their numbers can easily be\naugmented, now that (as of RTW) the Neighbors are\nintervening directly in human affairs...\n\n--Nick Gevers." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Michael Straight", "address": "straight at email.unc.edu" }, "date": "2001-04-22T21:48:38+00:00", "subject": "Re: (whorl) The Neighbors' other friends", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Sun, 22 Apr 2001, [iso-8859-1] Nicholas Gevers wrote:\nAnother note on the Secret: does any human other than\nHorn/Silk have the ability to travel astrally, surely\na rare gift from the Neighbors? " }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "What about Mora's dreamwalking/possessions, which seem to be linked\nsomehow to Fava's spirit?\n\n-Rostrum\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Nicholas Gevers", "address": "vermoulian at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2001-04-23T06:00:19+00:00", "subject": "(whorl) Re: The Neighbors' other friends", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Mora isn't travelling astrally in the same manner as\nHorn--she's doing, with or without Fava, what Mucor\ndoes, possessing others. Perhaps Fava facilitates\nthis, but I suspect the talent is latent in Mora;\nstill, an interesting point.\n\n--Nick Gevers.\n\n--- Michael Straight wrote: >\nOn Sun, 22 Apr 2001, Nicholas Gevers" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Another note on the Secret: does any human other\nthan\nHorn/Silk have the ability to travel astrally,\nsurely\na rare gift from the Neighbors? " }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "What about Mora's dreamwalking/possessions, which\nseem to be linked\nsomehow to Fava's spirit?" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Robert Borski", "address": "rborski at charter.net" }, "date": "2001-04-23T11:04:06+00:00", "subject": "(whorl) Re: The Neighbors' Other Friends", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Nick Gevers has written the following:\n\n\n\nHey, does this then perhaps answer the question about who it is that Mora\nand Inclito remind Horn of --i.e., Mucor and Blood?\n\nPertinent quote from IGJ: \"...after racking my brain for long days I've\nfinally realized who you and your father remind me of. I knew--I felt, at\nleast--that I had met you both before. I won't tell you because the names\nwould mean nothing to you.\"\n\nThe only problem with this is crimeboss Blood--who's hardly what I would\ncall \"very good people.\" Yet maybe...\n\n\nRobert Borski\n\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Michael Straight", "address": "straight at email.unc.edu" }, "date": "2001-04-23T12:32:52+00:00", "subject": "Re: (whorl) Re: The Neighbors' other friends", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, [iso-8859-1] Nicholas Gevers wrote:\nMora isn't travelling astrally in the same manner as\nHorn--she's doing, with or without Fava, what Mucor\ndoes, possessing others. Perhaps Fava facilitates\nthis, but I suspect the talent is latent in Mora;\nstill, an interesting point." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "It's not the same, but it has several characteristics in common with\nSilk|Horn's astral travel that Mucor's posessions don't: only works when\nMora is asleep, ability to bring others along, linked in some way with an\ninhuma. And if Horn's posession of Silk is mediated by the same\nphenomena that enables astral travel, then we have another similarity.\n\nDoes Silk|Horn ever do astral travel to another place on Blue? People\nhave asked why he didn't use it to visit Nettle. Is it possible that\nthere is a minimum distance necessary for it to work, that he could go to\nGreen or somewhere further away, but not anywhere closer? Perhaps one\ncan't have an astral body on the same planet as one's physical body, which\nwould explain why Mora's dreamwalking manefests as posession.\n\n-Rostrum\n\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun." } ] } ] }