# The Neighbors' other friends *The Whorl list — 5 messages, 3 voices, 22 Apr 2001* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Nicholas Gevers *22 Apr 2001, 07:42* Another note on the Secret: does any human other than Horn/Silk have the ability to travel astrally, surely a rare gift from the Neighbors? In other words, is there anyone else who can lead human expeditions to attack the inhumi birthing pools on Green, once Horn/Silk has departed? Well, the answer is yes, there probably is such a person, probably several. Taal has had direct dealings with the Neighbors. Windcloud states that he has other human friends besides Horn. They're around, and their numbers can easily be augmented, now that (as of RTW) the Neighbors are intervening directly in human affairs... --Nick Gevers. --- ### Michael Straight *22 Apr 2001, 21:48 · follows Nicholas Gevers* > On Sun, 22 Apr 2001, [iso-8859-1] Nicholas Gevers wrote: > Another note on the Secret: does any human other than > Horn/Silk have the ability to travel astrally, surely > a rare gift from the Neighbors? What about Mora's dreamwalking/possessions, which seem to be linked somehow to Fava's spirit? -Rostrum *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. --- ### Nicholas Gevers *23 Apr 2001, 06:00 · follows Michael Straight* Mora isn't travelling astrally in the same manner as Horn--she's doing, with or without Fava, what Mucor does, possessing others. Perhaps Fava facilitates this, but I suspect the talent is latent in Mora; still, an interesting point. --Nick Gevers. --- Michael Straight wrote: > On Sun, 22 Apr 2001, Nicholas Gevers > wrote: >> Another note on the Secret: does any human other >> than >> Horn/Silk have the ability to travel astrally, >> surely >> a rare gift from the Neighbors? > What about Mora's dreamwalking/possessions, which > seem to be linked > somehow to Fava's spirit? --- ### Robert Borski *23 Apr 2001, 11:04 · follows Nicholas Gevers* Nick Gevers has written the following: Hey, does this then perhaps answer the question about who it is that Mora and Inclito remind Horn of --i.e., Mucor and Blood? Pertinent quote from IGJ: "...after racking my brain for long days I've finally realized who you and your father remind me of. I knew--I felt, at least--that I had met you both before. I won't tell you because the names would mean nothing to you." The only problem with this is crimeboss Blood--who's hardly what I would call "very good people." Yet maybe... Robert Borski *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. --- ### Michael Straight *23 Apr 2001, 12:32 · follows Robert Borski* > On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, [iso-8859-1] Nicholas Gevers wrote: > Mora isn't travelling astrally in the same manner as > Horn--she's doing, with or without Fava, what Mucor > does, possessing others. Perhaps Fava facilitates > this, but I suspect the talent is latent in Mora; > still, an interesting point. It's not the same, but it has several characteristics in common with Silk|Horn's astral travel that Mucor's posessions don't: only works when Mora is asleep, ability to bring others along, linked in some way with an inhuma. And if Horn's posession of Silk is mediated by the same phenomena that enables astral travel, then we have another similarity. Does Silk|Horn ever do astral travel to another place on Blue? People have asked why he didn't use it to visit Nettle. Is it possible that there is a minimum distance necessary for it to work, that he could go to Green or somewhere further away, but not anywhere closer? Perhaps one can't have an astral body on the same planet as one's physical body, which would explain why Mora's dreamwalking manefests as posession. -Rostrum *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. ---