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  "thread": {
    "id": 1401,
    "subject": "Adam's Secret Theory",
    "messages": 3,
    "voices": 3,
    "first": "2001-04-24T09:31:46+00:00",
    "last": "2001-04-24T11:03:10+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0012-0716@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "David Lebling",
        "address": "dlebling at ucentric.com"
      },
      "date": "2001-04-24T10:02:33+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) Re: Adam's Secret Theory",
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          "text": "<<From: Adam Stephanides <adamsteph at earthlink.net>\nSubject: Yet another Secret theory: we have met the enemy and he is us>>\n\nBut how does your theory square with \"a weapon too heavy to wield\"? Unless\nthe meaning is that becoming good is too hard for the Neighbors, and for\nhumans. This makes a certain amount of sense, and captures the idea of a\n\"heavy\" weapon. If I have a sword that weighs fifty pounds, I can't swing it\nat my enemy, even though I know it would destroy him if I could.\n\nWe've gone around and around on the \"Golden Rule\" theory (I think I was one\nof the early proposers of it, if not the first), but it still isn't very\nsatisfying, even though it's the best we've got so far.\n\nFoolish inhumi, to be worried that humans might become good!\n\n    Dave Lebling\n    aka vizcacha\n\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0012-0717@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Adam Stephanides",
        "address": "adamsteph at earthlink.net"
      },
      "date": "2001-04-24T09:31:46+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (whorl) Re: Adam's Secret Theory",
      "in_reply_to": "<whorl-v0012-0716@digest.urth.net>",
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          "text": "on 4/24/01 9:02 AM, David Lebling at dlebling at ucentric.com wrote:\n<<From: Adam Stephanides <adamsteph at earthlink.net>\nSubject: Yet another Secret theory: we have met the enemy and he is us>>\n\nBut how does your theory square with \"a weapon too heavy to wield\"? Unless\nthe meaning is that becoming good is too hard for the Neighbors, and for\nhumans."
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          "text": "Right.\n\n--Adam\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0012-0719@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Michael Straight",
        "address": "straight at email.unc.edu"
      },
      "date": "2001-04-24T11:03:10+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (whorl) Re: Adam's Secret Theory",
      "in_reply_to": "<whorl-v0012-0717@digest.urth.net>",
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          "text": "On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, David Lebling wrote:\n<<From: Adam Stephanides <adamsteph at earthlink.net>\nSubject: Yet another Secret theory: we have met the enemy and he is us>>\n\nBut how does your theory square with \"a weapon too heavy to wield\"? Unless\nthe meaning is that becoming good is too hard for the Neighbors, and for\nhumans. This makes a certain amount of sense, and captures the idea of a\n\"heavy\" weapon. If I have a sword that weighs fifty pounds, I can't swing it\nat my enemy, even though I know it would destroy him if I could."
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          "text": "A sword is obviously a weapon, even if it's a sword so big no one could\nactually use it.  But a fact about the inhumi would only be called a\nweapon if someone were to say, \"Ah! This information could be used to hurt\nthe inhumi!\"  But if the information could obviously never be used to hurt\nthe inhumi, then why would Horn or anyone else call it a weapon in the\nfirst place?\n\n-Rostrum\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
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