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  "thread": {
    "id": 142,
    "subject": "Cities and Night",
    "messages": 1,
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    "first": "1997-02-28T17:40:38+00:00",
    "last": "1997-02-28T17:40:38+00:00"
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    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0003-0199@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "David_Lebling",
        "address": "david_lebling at avid.com"
      },
      "date": "1997-02-28T17:40:38+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) Cities and Night",
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          "text": "Don't forget Wick.  Mentioned by Quetzal in _Calde_, p. 156.  I don't\nrecall seeing an \"Urbis,\" just \"Urbs.\"\n\nOther than Palustria and Trivigaunte, all these cities look like they\ncould be hack names:\n\n  (en)Viron\n  (sub)Urbs\n  (bruns)Wick     // is there a Brunswick, IL?)\n  (*something-or-other*)Gens\n\nIt reminds me of Leguin's \"Omelas,\" which is \"Salem, O.\" backwards.\n\nLet me ask another question (and this one is prompted by laziness, I\nfear -- I haven't searched for quotes).  What is the shade and how does\nit work?  Is the night sky of Viron dark but lit with the lights of the\ncities on the other side of the whorl, or is it bright with the sunlight\nshining on those cities?\n\nIt would seem to me that if it's bright, there would never truly be a\nnight anywhere on the whorl -- think how much light a full moon, which\nis a tiny fraction of the sky, provides us on earth.  If it's dark, what\nhappens at shadeup and shadedown?  It would be affecting the entire\nwhorl at once.\n\nRemember the confusion associated with the near-dark daylight of Urth?\n\n     -vizcacha\n     (david_lebling at avid.com)\n\nQuestions or problems to whorl-owner at lists.best.com"
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