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  "thread": {
    "id": 1427,
    "subject": "Cilinia's mausoleum",
    "messages": 5,
    "voices": 4,
    "first": "2001-05-31T19:33:55+00:00",
    "last": "2001-06-06T14:25:46+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0012-0787@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Michael Andre-Driussi",
        "address": "mantis at siriusfiction.com"
      },
      "date": "2001-05-31T19:33:55+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) Cilinia's mausoleum",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
      "blocks": [
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Jerry Friedman wrote:\n(Chap. 19, a mausoleum [apparently not Severian's\nhideout] in the necropolis"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Ah, this has been established (or otherwise achieved consensual validity in\nexcess of 51%)?  I hadn't known, I must have missed that . . . it poses a\nleap I cannot follow.\n\n=mantis=\n\n\nSirius Fiction\nHas Moved To\nhttp://www.siriusfiction.com/\n\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0012-0791@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Michael Andre-Driussi",
        "address": "mantis at siriusfiction.com"
      },
      "date": "2001-06-01T19:52:23+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (whorl) Cilinia's mausoleum",
      "in_reply_to": "<whorl-v0012-0787@digest.urth.net>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
      "blocks": [
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "I wrote:\nJerry Friedman wrote:"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "(Chap. 19, a mausoleum [apparently not Severian's\nhideout] in the necropolis"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Ah, this has been established (or otherwise achieved consensual validity in\nexcess of 51%)?  I hadn't known, I must have missed that . . . it poses a\nleap I cannot follow."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Nevermind.  I withdraw the statement/question.\n\nOTOH, it does lead to an interesting notion: what if, instead of a FAQ\nabout a book/series/story, what if there was a position tabulation, sort of\nlike a voting ballet, showing broad points (\"Participants like the piece\"\nxx%; \"Respondents dislike the piece\" xx%), then medium points, down to fine\ndetail points?\n\nIt would be a digested digest, I suppose.  A tallying person would read\nthrough the thread, picking out the various points of concensus and\ncontention, then use these to create the ballot.  Rather like making an\nindex, in a way.  The ballot could then be voted on afresh, or the\npercentages could just be filled in based on how the discussion seemed to\ngo in the original.\n\nAt the end of this there would be these handly little one-page summaries of\nwhere everybody has been and which sides they were on.  Like a busload of\ntourists posing for a snapshot.\n\nThat would be something!\n\n=mantis=\n\n\nSirius Fiction\nHas Moved To\nhttp://www.siriusfiction.com/\n\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0012-0792@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Kevin J. Maroney",
        "address": "kmaroney at ungames.com"
      },
      "date": "2001-06-02T13:17:17+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (whorl) Cilinia's mausoleum",
      "in_reply_to": "<whorl-v0012-0791@digest.urth.net>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
      "blocks": [
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "At 07:52 PM 6/1/01 -0700, Mantis wrote:\nOTOH, it does lead to an interesting notion: what if, instead of a FAQ\nabout a book/series/story, what if there was a position tabulation, sort of\nlike a voting ballet, showing broad points (\"Participants like the piece\"\nxx%; \"Respondents dislike the piece\" xx%), then medium points, down to fine\ndetail points?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Ahah! The Wolfe Seminar! We could all get pink, red, grey, and black balls\nand vote on whether Severian is his own mother...."
        },
        {
          "kind": "sig",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Wombat, a.k.a. Kevin Maroney kmaroney at ungames.com\nKitchen Staff Supervisor, New York Review of Science Fiction\nhttp://www.nyrsf.com\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0012-0796@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Michael Straight",
        "address": "straight at email.unc.edu"
      },
      "date": "2001-06-04T12:39:55+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (whorl) Cilinia's mausoleum",
      "in_reply_to": "<whorl-v0012-0792@digest.urth.net>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
      "blocks": [
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "On Sat, 2 Jun 2001, Kevin J. Maroney wrote:\nAt 07:52 PM 6/1/01 -0700, Mantis wrote:"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "OTOH, it does lead to an interesting notion: what if, instead of a FAQ\nabout a book/series/story, what if there was a position tabulation, sort of\nlike a voting ballet, showing broad points (\"Participants like the piece\"\nxx%; \"Respondents dislike the piece\" xx%), then medium points, down to fine\ndetail points?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Ahah! The Wolfe Seminar! We could all get pink, red, grey, and black balls\nand vote on whether Severian is his own mother...."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "But can we get the guy who directed _Showgirls_ to pay for it?\n\n-Rostrum\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0012-0801@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "matthew.malthouse",
        "address": "matthew.malthouse at guardian.co.uk"
      },
      "date": "2001-06-06T14:25:46+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (whorl) Cilinia's mausoleum",
      "in_reply_to": "<whorl-v0012-0796@digest.urth.net>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
      "blocks": [
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "On 02/06/2001 18:17:17 Kevin J. Maroney wrote:\nAhah! The Wolfe Seminar! We could all get pink, red, grey, and black balls\nand vote on whether Severian is his own mother...."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Oh, c'mon!  There ain't *still* poor readers who don't know that, are there...\n\nMatthew"
        },
        {
          "kind": "sig",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "http://www.calmeilles.demon.co.uk/\nhttp://www.calmeilles.demon.co.uk/pride/\n\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
        }
      ]
    }
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