{
  "export": {
    "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/whorl/1439",
    "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it.  Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.",
    "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'"
  },
  "archive": "whorl",
  "thread": {
    "id": 1439,
    "subject": "Lupine defined",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "2001-06-10T23:09:35+00:00",
    "last": "2001-06-11T08:50:27+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0012-0813@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "William Ansley",
        "address": "wansley at warwick.net"
      },
      "date": "2001-06-10T23:09:35+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) Lupine defined",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
      "blocks": [
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Pardon my ignorance, but what is \"Lupine\"?  I just picked up a copy of There\nAre Doors at the used paperback store the other day, and it is described as\n\"loop-the-Lupine\".  I've heard you guys talk about Lupine on the list before.\n Thanks,\n\n-Steve"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "No need to apologize. If you don't ask you can't learn. (However, if \nyou do ask and I answer, you risk an overdose of pedantry.)\n\nI was originally going to send a private reply to your message, but \nthen I thought there might be others reading this discussion list \nthat had been wondering the same thing but were afraid to ask.\n\nLupine means wolf-like, it is an adjective derived from the Latin \nword for wolf lupus (similar adjectival forms are ursine: bear-like, \nvulpine: fox-like and murine: mouse-like; the latter is used almost \nexclusively in scientific literature).\n\nIt is a scholarly pun on Gene Wolfe's surname. (It may have been \ncoined by John Clute; does anyone know?) On this discussion list it \nis used to mean writing in the style or manner of Gene Wolfe, \nespecially something written in a particularly convoluted, \nelliptical, ambiguous way.\n\nIt is used in combined forms such as \"loop-the-Lupine\" which you \nmention (I imagine this means \"even more convoluted than Wolfe's \nwriting usually is\") and Dan'l Danehy-Oakes excellent recent coinage \nLupiverse, meaning the universe of discourse of a particular work by \nGene Wolfe."
        },
        {
          "kind": "sig",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "William Ansley\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0012-0819@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes",
        "address": "ddanehy at siebel.com"
      },
      "date": "2001-06-11T08:50:27+00:00",
      "subject": "RE: (whorl) Lupine defined",
      "in_reply_to": "<whorl-v0012-0813@digest.urth.net>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
      "blocks": [
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "William Ansley referred to"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes excellent recent coinage Lupiverse,"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Thank you!"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "meaning the universe of discourse of a particular work by \nGene Wolfe."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Well, actually, what I had in mind was the major universe \nof discourse in which the BOOKS OF THE [FOO] SUN take place,\nbut if the term is more useful the other way, who am I to\nstand in the way of linguistic evolution?\n\n--Dan'l\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
        }
      ]
    }
  ]
}