{ "export": { "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/whorl/1456", "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "whorl", "thread": { "id": 1456, "subject": "duko and the Sirius super cluster", "messages": 2, "voices": 2, "first": "2001-06-21T08:38:38+00:00", "last": "2001-06-22T10:59:22+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Michael Andre-Driussi", "address": "mantis at siriusfiction.com" }, "date": "2001-06-21T08:38:38+00:00", "subject": "(whorl) duko and the Sirius super cluster", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Jerry Friedman wrote:\nWhy is there a k in \"Duko\"?" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "It was my impression that the word is from Esperanto rather than Italian.\nFitting the pattern that seems to exist in some places on the Whorl (and\nEarth as well), where there is a base language supplemented by a second\n\"foreign\" language for certain terms (military ranks, city names, religious\nterms, science terms). (I thought the Trivigantes had a blend that was\noutside historical Islamic boundaries, but maybe not--since a blend of\nArabic, Persian, and Indian terms might point directly to, say, Pakistan,\nor Sultanate of Deli. That is, the bounds of Islam are large indeed.\nStill--rani, or \"ranee,\" is a Hindu queen; etc.) I thought that one or\nmore other terms used by that group were also perfect Esperanto, but I\ncould be mistaken." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Spectacled Bear wrote:\nWhat are the relations, if any, among www.sirius.com, www.siriusfiction.com,\nwww.siriusbooks.com (whose web site shows only a CGI directory, inaccessible),\nwww.sirius-books.com, and the Sirius Book Company who published some of Keith\nRoberts' work?" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I can't speak to all of them. I named Sirius Fiction in 1994, a publisher\nfor the Lexicon and a magazine. There was a rash of Sirius namings around\nthat time, and one of them was an ISP. I thought it would be funny to go\nwith them, and years later, I did just that. Service went downhill and I\nleft for another ISP, finally getting around to setting up\nsiriusfiction.com, etc.\n\n=mantis=\n\n\nSirius Fiction\nHas Moved To\nhttp://www.siriusfiction.com/\n\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Jerry Friedman", "address": "jerry_friedman at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2001-06-22T10:59:22+00:00", "subject": "Re: (whorl) duko and the Sirius super cluster", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "--- Michael Andre-Driussi \nwrote:\nJerry Friedman wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Why is there a k in \"Duko\"?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "It was my impression that the word is from Esperanto\nrather than Italian." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "..." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": " I\nthought that one or\nmore other terms used by that group were also\nperfect Esperanto, but I\ncould be mistaken." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Esperanto! Thanks. You know when I would have\nguessed that? Does anyone know whether how many of\nthe words from Grandecitta are Esperanto? According\nto\n,\n\"strego/a\" is not Esperanto; I'm sure it is Italian.\n\nOne of the gods was very strange if he or she\ndecided Grandecitta's language should be a mixture\nof Esperanto and Italian. But \"very strange\" is\nabout right." }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "Jerry Friedman" } ] } ] }