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  "thread": {
    "id": 1467,
    "subject": "Scylla and Wolfe's \"side by side\" style",
    "messages": 1,
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    "first": "2001-08-03T18:43:51+00:00",
    "last": "2001-08-03T18:43:51+00:00"
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    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0012-0911@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "maa32",
        "address": "maa32 at dana.ucc.nau.edu"
      },
      "date": "2001-08-03T18:43:51+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) Scylla and Wolfe's \"side by side\" style",
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          "text": "Since someone mentioned Wolfe's foreshadowing of Scylla as Oreb again, I just \nwanted to point out that Wolfe always places two seemingly unrelated things \ntogether, side by side in the text, often dozens of times, without drawing \nexplicit links. Kind of like how everytime a weird creature in The Book of the \nNew Sun shows up hunting Severian, Hethor reappears immediately afterwards.  \nWolfe did the same thing throughout most of In Green's Jungles and Return to \nthe Whorl.  Almost evertime the narrator dreams of Scylla or thinks of her, \nOreb flaps in or makes a noise or draws attention to himself. I noticed this \nbecause I had read most of the spoilers for Green and Return to the Whorl on \nthis list before I read them and decided to pay attention every time Scylla \ncame up.  Much as most of the stories related in Peace involve ghosts and dead \npeople, when strung together the parallel structure casts light on the primary \nnarrative.  Anytime something is repeatedly mentioned side by side in Wolfe, I \nthink it is intentional (and the most predictable aspect of his style).  He \ndoesn't draw immediate connections but the placement in the text insinuates a \nwhole lot.  Which leaves me curious as to the strange narrative jumps \nthroughout the short sun books ... how connected is the narrative?  Can we \ndetermine what makes the narrator skip from topic to topic?\n\nAnother interesting thing I noticed, which I think is very very strange, is \nthat the narrator does not directly narrate anything that happened to his \npresent body before the incidental beginning of narration in On Blue's Waters.\n In other words, everything the narrator remembers did not happen to his body.\n When he gets to his present body, the editors tell the story.  If we accept \nthat Silk is  the narrator, he only narrates what he was not present to \nexperience (except for his \"present\" journey from being Rajan to arriving at \nHorn's home, during which time he was actively composing his manuscript).  \nThere's just something weird and deliberate about what he narrates in detail.\n\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
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