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  "thread": {
    "id": 1473,
    "subject": "What was _Thrust_?",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "2001-09-05T14:57:26+00:00",
    "last": "2001-09-05T14:57:26+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0012-0919@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Michael Andre-Driussi",
        "address": "mantis at siriusfiction.com"
      },
      "date": "2001-09-05T14:57:26+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) What was _Thrust_?",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
      "blocks": [
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          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Jerry Friedman wrote:\nThis stuff is all very interesting!\n\nI suppose I'm unlikely to look up the references, but what's _Thrust_ and\nwho made the remark?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "_Thrust_ was a fanzine, which then was renamed _Quantum_, and then ceased\npublication.  The remark in question was made by Gene Wolfe himself, as\nreported in the interview published in _Thrust_."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "As for the century earlier, I don't follow that.  Typhon had two heads\nwhen the _Whorl_ was launched, and he still did when he \"retired to his\nblameless couch\".  Could he have been in that unpleasant state for a\ncentury?  Or are you suggesting that Typhon has performed the same\nmaneuver more than once?"
        },
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          "text": "Talarican is saying, I believe, that the Whorl was launched sometime after\nTyphon got the two heads, but before Typhon actually died (naturally!); and\nsince Ymar (first autarch) died \"a chiliad ago,\" and Ymar was a boy when\nSeverian met him in URTH, in the same era when Typhon had two heads and\ncontrol of Urth (although the rebellion is going on at that point, isn't\nit?) . . . so it seems like the Whorl could not have been launched 1000\nyears ago (when Ymar the Almost Just died), nor even in the decades before\nthen (since it was Ymar's reign), but in the decades before Ymar's reign.\nSay 100 years, or 50 years if you like.  How long did Ymar's reign last,\nhow old was he when he somehow managed to attain the newly minted\nthrone--who knows?\n\nBecause the rebellion is going on when the Conciliator appears, this\nstrongly suggests that the Whorl was launched at some point prior to the\narrival of the Conciliator, that is, prior to events in that section of\nURTH (since the rebellion in Mainframe is the same as what happened on the\nground, or so it has always seemed).\n\n=mantis=\n\n\nSirius Fiction\nHas Moved To\nhttp://www.siriusfiction.com/\n\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
        }
      ]
    }
  ]
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