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  "thread": {
    "id": 189,
    "subject": "Quetzal & Pike",
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    "first": "1997-04-11T16:06:00+00:00",
    "last": "1997-04-11T16:06:00+00:00"
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      "message_id": "<whorl-v0004-0033@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "m.driussi",
        "address": "m.driussi at genie.com"
      },
      "date": "1997-04-11T16:06:00+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) Quetzal & Pike",
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          "text": "Reply:  Item #2173915 from WHORL at LISTS.BEST.COM@INET00#\n\nviscacha,\n\nRe: Mucor waking the gods.  Just a guess, based partly on her waking\nup the Sleepers, and the fact that shortly after her visits gods and\ngoddesses appear--they practically spring up like roses in her train.\n(Don't forget that Echidna possessed Marble/Rose around the same time\nthat Mucor was messing with Cassava--didn't Silk \"mistakenly\" think\nat first that Marble/Rose was possessed by Mucor rather than\nEchidna?  Also Mucor was poltergeisting the yellow house for months\nbefore Silk showed up, so she has been active since before the book starts;\nHy built her shrine to Kypris before the book starts . . . and I know\nthis seems a wild stretch, since alga has already told me as much, but I\nthink Mucor may have awakened Kypris first--by \"accident\" because Mucor was\nlooking for love, the love that her adoptive father wasn't giving her--the\nsame man who owned a whore house that attracted customers and workers also\nlooking for love.)\n\nThis \"Mucor waking the gods\" notion ties in with (is the solution for) my\nother theory which is that Quetzal put the gods to sleep by the same methods\n(astral projection to Main Frame or the nearest node, switching the Viron\nconnection switches off).  So Mucor and Quetzal are sort of a matched\npair, she unloosing (acting like the mischievous\nJahi-of-Talos's-play) what he had bound (in a rather Marduk style).\n\nRe: Pike fending off Quetzal.  Since \"fending off\" has such a\nphysical, \"hand-to-hand\" connotation, maybe I should have writ \"warding\noff\"?  Since Pike taught Silk the warding charm that had worked for him\nin years gone by.  If there is or has ever been another inhumu onboard the\nWhorl, then of course Pike may have warded off one other than\nQuetzal.  However, the timeframe is right (both Pike and Quetzal\nbeing in Viron at the same time), the circumstances are right (the\nfirst inhumu attack or attacks might be connected to the turmoil\nfollowing the death of Calde Tussah; maybe even part of the hunt for\nhis heir), and there is no textual evidence that there is another\ninhumu onboard (as helpful as that would be in many ways).  (There is\nslight evidence that there are different types of inhumu on Blue and\nGreen, i.e., \"hooded\" versus other.)\n\nRe: Quetzal's abilities.  Shapechanging, etc.  Well, it would be\nhandy if he could go gaseous (like a vampire, or like Mucor but able\nto take his physical body along) or enter the corridors of time\n(alternate dimension) for teleport-like blinks hither and yon.  We all\nagree that he can get small and bat like, since that is how he flit from\nSilk's window.  (Now is this form different than the flying serpent\nshape he assumes to fly into his favorite tree?)  But how he disappeared\nin the dark stairway to a locked cellar, or from a well lit dining room\nfull of people, remains a bit mysterious.\n\nRe: Q's physical description, don't forget those hinged fangs, just\nlike our poisonous snakes.  Neat.  Yes, somewhat like E.T., with the\ntelescopic neck, but Q's head isn't so L-shaped as E.T.  Yes, inhuma\nwould seem to be chinless in their natural state.\n\n=mantis="
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