# Digest whorl.v001.n064 *The Whorl list — 2 messages, 2 voices, 19 Mar 1997* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Alice Turner *19 Mar 1997, 07:50* . > Another question I have is that of, is Chenille a real color? It > is > a type of material or fabric I know, but Chenille herself refers to it as > a > color, the color that she died her hair, she also says that there are > Chenille flowers, which I am ignorant of also. However, the word in > French > means caterpillar, which kind of screws of the whole girl names=flowers. xury: My new OED that I am so proud of let me down, giving only the fabric definition (though it did please me by going back for roots past the French caterpillar to "canicula," a hairy little dog). Wyman's Garden Encyclopedia comes partly to the rescue: CHENILLE COPPERLEAF (Acalypha hispida): A house plant, native of the East Indies...the red flowers are born in spikelike drooping racemes...sometimes it is called the Red Hot Cattail... I have actually seen these flowers in the tropics, both the drooping ones and another upright rather contorted kind (echevera leucotrychia) that Wyman's lists but does not elaborate on, and yes they are fuzzy and of a brilliant "unnatural" red--scarlet leaning toward fuschia. Think of it as one of those punk "cellophane" dye jobs. -alga- Questions or problems to whorl-owner at lists.best.com --- ### Kieran Mullen *22 Mar 1997, 21:06 · follows Alice Turner* > From: "Alice Turner" > > Mate is sorta weak as a clue. > > But the quick-and-dirty clues to Alexandria are (1) Holy Katharine (St. > Catherine is the patron of Alexandria); (2) the library; (3) the cluster of > towers in the old launching pad (Matachin, Bear, Witches etc.) which seem > to stand in for the ancient Pharos. Admittedly, the third point is a bit > far-fetched, but not so much when you put in context (I promise to do > context soon---taxes are in the way). This doesn't persuade me. Holy Katharine is not the patron of Nessus, only of the torturers. St. Catherine (of the St. Catherine's wheel fame) was martyred (IIRC) on a burning wheel. If anything, this is an allusion to the fact that the towers are themselves rockets. The library reference is too broad: are ALL libraries in fiction automatically the Great Library of Alexandria? Kieran Mullen Questions or problems to whorl-owner at lists.best.com ---