# tick talk, nessus nexu *The Whorl list — 1 messages, 1 voices, 19 Mar 1997* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### m.driussi *19 Mar 1997, 21:51* Reply: Item #2737207 from WHORL at LISTS.BEST.COM@INET01# R., Is Chace the origin point for that wonderful piece that appears in newspaper columns and folklore books from time to time: "Laddle Rat Rotten Hut"? Long time gone been a favorite of mine. Re: Whorlography (or "deckplans of The Whorl"), I agree on the variety drawn from Urth's smorgasbord by He Who Would Be King. You doubt that Trivs come from next door to Nessus on Urth, but I urge you to recall the odd Turko-Persian allies (the Daughters of War, et al.) fighting alongside Severian at the Third Battle of Orithyia . . . Using a grid (perferably hexagonal) for plotting; knowing that Trivigaunte is closest to Viron; having some notion of how distant Palustria is (50+ leagues); knowing that Viron fought against Urbs . . . we can put down all the named cities in a fairy ring around Viron, then extrapolate this pattern of equidistance by the number of cities we think there are (200) and the cylindrical nature of the Whorl to get a new ballpark figure on how large the Whorl living surface is. Re: Mamelta's citizenship. Well she might not be Vironese in the sense of "contributing to the tax base of Viron" , but she does live in the Vironese underground mine of ancestors/descendents. As for her name, note that fellow tube-babe has the name "Olive." (But sure, you know how desperate I am for any sort of answer--my "feminine form of Mameluke" is a pretty wild shot.) =mantis= Questions or problems to whorl-owner at lists.best.com ---