{ "export": { "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/whorl/237", "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "whorl", "thread": { "id": 237, "subject": "Tick Talk", "messages": 3, "voices": 2, "first": "1997-03-24T09:19:12+00:00", "last": "1997-03-25T03:15:50+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "David_Lebling", "address": "david_lebling at avid.com" }, "date": "1997-03-24T09:19:12+00:00", "subject": "(whorl) Tick Talk", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Here's a compendium of everything Tick says (that I could find, mind\nyou). Most of it is pretty easy to decipher, especially in context, but\na few I'm not sure of have question marks after the uncertain\ntranslations.\n\nThere are a few interesting things I learned from this exercise:\n\nWhen we first meet Tick, Silk is looking for a sacrifice in honor of his\nenlightenment. The animal seller suggests Tick as particularly\nappropriate because she's the nearest thing to a child. She talks, and\nwhat does he try to get her to say? \"Shop, say shop\" he says, getting\nincreasingly angry. We don't learn until book IV that \"Shop\" means\n\"stop.\" The man has probably been tormenting Tick, and she's begging\nhim to stop.\n\nSecond is the last direct quote in my list, where she says \"Hat's shoe!\"\nThat's her last word on the discussion on the airship of whether she's\nan oracle of Sphigx. We have her answer!\n\n--------\nI\n\nWord, shoe word, who add pan. Bird, show bird, you bad man.\nBerry add word. Very bad bird.\nPack! Back!\nAdd word! Add speak! Bad bird! Bad beak!\n\nIV\n\nAdd, add word!\t Bad, bad bird!\nPack, itty laddie, peas dun lit am kilt may!\n Back[?], pretty lady, please don t\n let him kill me!\nBake here shop! Cuss-cuss. Make her stop! Kiss-kiss.\nNeice! Mow cuss! Nice! More kiss!\nItty laddie, done! Shop! Pretty lady, don t! Stop!\nPuck Tuck ape no! Pick Tick up now!\nNod heavey. Not heavy.\nNod rum. Not run.\nSay wharf laddie. Stay with lady.\nNew! No!\nAle rat, nod rung. All right, not wrong.\nMa durst, due add word! Me first, you bad bird!\nAdd cot! Bad cat!\nShop, itty laddie! Wise rung? Stop, pretty lady! What s wrong?\nDone bay saw made, laddie. Don t be so mad, lady.\nEss, laddie. Yes, lady.\nLaddie, done by scarred. Lady, don t be scared.\nDone try, laddie. Don t cry, lady.\nMy see, wears she putty laddie? Me say, where s the pretty lady?\nAn Gawk sees, hue comb wit may. And Auk says, you come with me.\nDen my add word! Then me bad bird!\nAdd word, dew! Bad bird, too!\nRust Milk, laddie. Trust Silk, lady.\nMilk bill take hit hall tight. Silk will make it all right.\nHat s shoe! That s true! (IV, 319)\n\n\"Something about milk and mammals, and strong twine off caramels\"\n Silk and camels, and [?]\n (This is Marble quoting Tick).\n\n -vizcacha\n (david_lebling at avid.com)\n\n\nQuestions or problems to whorl-owner at lists.best.com" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Doug Eigsti", "address": "douge at nti.com" }, "date": "1997-03-25T02:52:05+00:00", "subject": "Re: (whorl) Tick Talk", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "vizcacha,\n\n\tI will have to cast a dissenting vote for Tick's femininity. \nThree reasons:\n\n1) Auk calls him \"cully\", p. 309.4, a term reserved for males in cant.\n\n2) The name \"Tick\" fits the convention of animal names for males in Viron.\n\n3) Horn uses the pronoun \"he\", \"Tick (who landed on his feet)\", p. \n309.8, when referring to Tick.\n\n\tDo you have support for Tick being a female?\n\nRe: Tick Talk\n\tI found your compendium of Tick's speech translations useful and \nentertaining. Thanks for tracking them down. Knowing that Tick is an \noracle for Sphigx puts all his utterances in a new light.\n\tWhat about Oreb. For whom does he speak? He seems to have \ninsights into personalities that are revealing. He is also a natural \nenemy of Tick. Does this put him in the camp of Kypris and Pas?\n\nQuestions or problems to whorl-owner at lists.best.com" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Doug Eigsti", "address": "douge at nti.com" }, "date": "1997-03-25T03:15:50+00:00", "subject": "Re: (whorl) Tick Talk", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I forgot to take the blame for posting the dissenting vote against Tick's \nfemininity. That was me.\n\n=Talon=\n\nQuestions or problems to whorl-owner at lists.best.com" } ] } ] }