# shader subjects *The Whorl list — 1 messages, 1 voices, 21 Apr 1997* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Keith Bennett *21 Apr 1997, 16:24* I think that the Whorl rotates around the "LongSun". The sun and the shade would be stationary in relation to the center of rotation (Mainframe). Concerning the shadows of the mountains, I believe that they are spoken of as "filling the valleys to the brim". If so then its hard to believe that reflected light would be even close to bright enough to cast those types of shadows. Reef ---