# Questions *The Whorl list — 1 messages, 1 voices, 14 May 1997* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Jim Jordan *14 May 1997, 09:31* Gene, Originally I assumed the Enlightenments of Silk were like the invasions of the Dreammaster in "The Detective of Dreams"; i.e., direct actions by God. On the other hand, perhaps the Enlightenments are concurrent actions by the Outsider, utilizing and enhancing something else, like a download from Mainframe. (I don't buy that these are ONLY a natural events, for why then would Silk associate them with the non-mainframe "minor god" Outsider?) The first Enlightenment is Silk's baptism, and since baptism utilizes water, perhaps the Enlightenment utilized mainframe? At any rate, do you care to enlighten us as to whether the Enlightenments are purely miraculous or are concurrent with activities of Mainframe or Pas? Or would you rather let us keep working on this one!! Jim Jordan ---