Echoes of C.S. Lewis's Space Trilogy The Whorl list — 2 messages, 2 voices, 12 Jun 1997 https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/whorl/341 Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. ============================================================================== Michael Straight — 12 Jun 1997, 17:00 When I first read Nightside, there were a couple of things that reminded me of C.S. Lewis's Space Trilogy. [Minor spoilers for Perelandra follow] In the second book, _Perelandra_, the protagonist, Ransom, is in a situation where it seems the Devil himself (or his representative) is trying to do a Very Bad Thing and Ransom wonders why God seems to be allowing it... "Had Hell a prerogative to work wonders? Why did Heaven work none? ...he was forced to perceive that his own coming to Perelandra was at least as much of a marvel as the Enemy's. That miracle on the right side, which he had demanded, had in fact occured. He himself was the miracle...If the issue lay in [God's] hands, Ransom and the Lady *were* those hands. The fate of a world really depended on how they behaved in the next few hours" (Perelandra, p. 140-142). This seems so close to Silk's formulation of the Outsider's revelation, "I am to receive no help, because I am help" that I'm inclined to believe it must have been an influence on Wolfe. The connection thing is that, especially in Nightside when I thought he was purely a villain, Remora's speech patterns reminded me a whole lot of Withers from _That Hideous Strength_. Speaking of influences, people keep saying that Chesterton's Father Brown stories are an obvious one. It's been a while since I've read them, but I just don't see it - other than that the protagonists are both priests, I don't see any real similarities. What am I missing? I know Wolfe has mentioned that he is a Chesterton fan (and here let me put in a strenuous plug for _The Man Who Was Thursday_, an amazing book), but has he voiced an opinon about Lewis's works? -Rostrum ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jim Jordan — 13 Jun 1997, 14:14 follows, by subject match Michael Straight U rote: > Speaking of influences, people keep saying that Chesterton's Father Brown > stories are an obvious one. It's been a while since I've read them, but I > just don't see it - other than that the protagonists are both priests, I > don't see any real similarities. What am I missing? > > I know Wolfe has mentioned that he is a Chesterton fan (and here let me > put in a strenuous plug for _The Man Who Was Thursday_, an amazing book), > but has he voiced an opinon about Lewis's works? > > -Rostrum In his interview with me, available over on Paul Duggan's Wolfe Page, Gene said that he is quite a Lewis fan. Influence is, thus, quite possible. Only the first book betrays a Father Brownish element, IMO, as Silk solves a crime. Nutria ------------------------------------------------------------------------------