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This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "whorl", "thread": { "id": 346, "subject": "The Next Whorl", "messages": 3, "voices": 2, "first": "1997-06-14T11:30:35+00:00", "last": "1997-06-16T23:52:38+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Alice Turner", "address": "al at interport.net" }, "date": "1997-06-14T11:30:35+00:00", "subject": "(whorl) The Next Whorl", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "(I thought I had already posted this, but I must have screwed up as I find\nno evidence---late night and under influence, arrrgh.)\n\nOyez! News directly from David Hartwell, Wolfe's editor. Wolfe has not yet\nturned in the first volume of Short Sun, but it is expected August-Sept. \nHis pattern is as follows: He writes a first draft of all the books (and\nthere may be four!), then he revises them for consistency. Then he\npolishes, book by book, and this typically takes him nine months, so if the\nfirst one comes in Aug-Sept, you can count on your fingers what the\npublishing schedule will be, starting with fall '98 (no room in the spring\nlist, says Hartwell). I'd figure spring '99 next, then it depends on whim\nto a degree (from our POV, not necessarily Tor's).\n\nMore news: Yes, there may be more Soldier books---there have been many,\nmany reader requests, and Hartwell himself is fond of them. But there are\nproblems. Hartwell confirmed my assumption that Wolfe, in perfectionist\nmode, found the period details difficult, but said there was a serious\nsecond problem from a publisher's viewpoint. Latro's memory failure,\nestablished in the first 100 pages of the first book (and a brilliant 100\npages, said he) is a stumbling block for anyone starting with any\nsubsequent book. Merely to put a \"translator's note\" in the beginning is,\nin his opinion, not sufficient to clue in the new reader. I'm not certain\nof that myself, but I pass it on.\n\nI, myself, read Gibson's Sprawl series backward, starting with Mona Lisa\nOverdrive and ending with Neuromancer, and enjoyed them very much, so I do\nunderstand Hartwell's concern. If I had picked up Soldier of Arete first, I\nthink I would have bogged down quickly.\n\n-alga-" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Alice Turner", "address": "al at interport.net" }, "date": "1997-06-15T00:25:28+00:00", "subject": "(whorl) The Next Whorl", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "(I thought I had already posted this, but I must have screwed up as I find\nno evidence---late night and under influence, arrrgh.)\n\nOyez! News directly from David Hartwell, Wolfe's editor. Wolfe has not yet\nturned in the first volume of Short Sun, but it is expected August-Sept. \nHis pattern is as follows: He writes a first draft of all the books (and\nthere may be four!), then he revises them for consistency. Then he\npolishes, book by book, and this typically takes him nine months, so if the\nfirst one comes in Aug-Sept, you can count on your fingers what the\npublishing schedule will be, starting with fall '98 (no room in the spring\nlist, says Hartwell). I'd figure spring '99 next, then it depends on whim\nto a degree (from our POV, not necessarily Tor's).\n\nMore news: Yes, there may be more Soldier books---there have been many,\nmany reader requests, and Hartwell himself is fond of them. But there are\nproblems. Hartwell confirmed my assumption that Wolfe, in perfectionist\nmode, found the period details difficult, but said there was a serious\nsecond problem from a publisher's viewpoint. Latro's memory failure,\nestablished in the first 100 pages of the first book (and a brilliant 100\npages, said he) is a stumbling block for anyone starting with any\nsubsequent book. Merely to put a \"translator's note\" in the beginning is,\nin his opinion, not sufficient to clue in the new reader. I'm not certain\nof that myself, but I pass it on.\n\nI, myself, read Gibson's Sprawl series backward, starting with Mona Lisa\nOverdrive and ending with Neuromancer, and enjoyed them very much, so I do\nunderstand Hartwell's concern. If I had picked up Soldier of Arete first, I\nthink I would have bogged down quickly.\n\n-alga-" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Michael Richman", "address": "mrichman at cybernex.net" }, "date": "1997-06-16T23:52:38+00:00", "subject": "Re: (whorl) The Next Whorl", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "More news: Yes, there may be more Soldier books---there have been many,\nmany reader requests, and Hartwell himself is fond of them. But there are\nproblems. Hartwell confirmed my assumption that Wolfe, in perfectionist\nmode, found the period details difficult, but said there was a serious\nsecond problem from a publisher's viewpoint. Latro's memory failure,\nestablished in the first 100 pages of the first book (and a brilliant 100\npages, said he) is a stumbling block for anyone starting with any\nsubsequent book. Merely to put a \"translator's note\" in the beginning is,\nin his opinion, not sufficient to clue in the new reader. I'm not certain\nof that myself, but I pass it on." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I guess there's only one thing for them to do--reissue the the first two.\nAnd this time, let them put some half naked women on the cover so the books\nwill move!\n\n\nMichael Richman\n380 Homans Av\nCloster, NJ 07624\nmrichman at bc.cybernex.net" } ] } ] }