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  "thread": {
    "id": 37,
    "subject": "Silk's Cross",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "1997-01-21T10:58:58+00:00",
    "last": "1997-01-22T09:49:41+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0002-0059@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "David_Lebling",
        "address": "david_lebling at avid.com"
      },
      "date": "1997-01-21T10:58:58+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) Silk's Cross",
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          "text": "A few minutes with the encyclopedia both illuminates and obscures.\nSilk's cross is referred to as a \"gammadion,\" and as a \"voided cross.\"\nAs it happens, and has been already pointed out, the swastika or\n\"fylfot\" is a gammadion (because it is made up of four gammas). (A\nvoided cross is one with a hole in the center of it.)\n\nHowever, there's another definition of a gammadion (from the OED):\n\"voided greek cross,\" where the gammas are \"back-to-back.\" \nUnfortunately, there is no picture. However, a greek cross is one where\nthe arms of the cross are equal in length (a roman cross, more commonly\nseen, has the lower arm longer).\n\nSilk's cross has an \"X-shaped void\" in it, according to _Nightside_. \nSo, there are several possible looks one could imagine. The only one I\ncould come up with that matches all the criteria is:\n\n     | |\n     | |\n_____| |_____\n_____   _____\n     | |\n     | |\n     | |\n\nThis looks rather like the cross one used to see on German warplanes\n(WWI vintage, for example).\n\nIt has the problem that the gammas aren't attached to each other, but\nthat's a small drawback, easily cured by a small connector at the end of\neach arm.\n\n     Dave Lebling\n     (david_lebling at avid.com)\n\nQuestions or problems to whorl-owner at lists.best.com"
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    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0002-0065@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "David_Lebling",
        "address": "david_lebling at avid.com"
      },
      "date": "1997-01-22T09:49:41+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) Silk's cross",
      "in_reply_to": "<whorl-v0002-0059@digest.urth.net>",
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          "text": "On the subject of crosses, I found\n\nhttp://www.amulet.co.uk/symbols/crosses/\n\nwhich has illustrations of more forms of cross than you've ever seen\nbefore.  My suggestion for Silk's cross is listed as \"Gammadion (1)\". I\ndon't think the arms being equal makes them any less gamma-like, by the\nway.\n\nTo answer someones question, a \"fylfot\" is a four-legged (as opposed to\nfour-gamma'd) symbol resembling a cross.\n\nThe word is derived from \"full (of) foot\". It generally is (incorrectly)\nidentified with the gammadion or swastika today, huffs the OED.\n\nI can't draw one in ascii, but interestingly enough, it is one of a\nfamily of symbols made from (running or flexed) human legs. The other\nwell-known one is the triskele, a three footed figure. Severian's dog\nwas named Triskele, of course.\n\n     Dave\n     (david_lebling at avid.com)\n\nQuestions or problems to whorl-owner at lists.best.com"
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