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  "thread": {
    "id": 380,
    "subject": "Holy Moses!",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "1997-06-28T16:29:12+00:00",
    "last": "1997-06-30T01:16:00+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0006-0485@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Kieran Mullen",
        "address": "kieran at phyast.nhn.ou.edu"
      },
      "date": "1997-06-28T16:29:12+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) Holy Moses!",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "From: Alice Turner <al at ny.playboy.com>\nSubject: Go Down, Moses\nDate: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 16:32:56 -0400\n\nAt 12:26 PM 6/27/97 -0700, you wrote:"
        },
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          "depth": 2,
          "text": "   To me Silk has more of a Mosaic flavor to his character than Christic.\nHe leads his people out of bondage to a promised planet.  However, he\ndoes not get to walk in the Land himself.  I mean, \"Exodus\"?  The burning\nbush?  \n\n              Kieran Mullen"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "What it the Moses role was played by Quetzal?"
        },
        {
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          "depth": 0,
          "text": "     He is never really seen as a leader of the people.  His image is\nprimarily serpentine, and therefore devilish in this mythology (IMO).\nI don't think that Moses led the Hebrews through the desert so they \ncould get eaten in the promised land :-).\n\n     I also don't mean to press the point to strongly.  Symbolism is not\nallegory.  We don't have a Mr.  Goodworks and a Ms.  Gossip running\naround.  It also occurs to me that Wolfe's soteriology (story of being\nsaved) doesn't have to rigorously following the Biblical paradigms.\n\n     Can anyone think of sf novels that follow other spiritual traditions\noff planet?  I think it's in Simmons _Hyperion_, where he replays the \nstory of Abraham and Isaac.  (There are lots of such novels that involve the \nChristian tradition).   By \"follow\" I don't mean simply that there are\nMoslems or Buddhists on another planet.  I mean novels that use their\ncosmology on an sf scale.\n\n                   Kieran Mullen"
        }
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    },
    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0006-0486@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "m.driussi",
        "address": "m.driussi at genie.com"
      },
      "date": "1997-06-30T01:16:00+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) Holy Moses!",
      "in_reply_to": "<whorl-v0006-0485@digest.urth.net>",
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          "text": "Reply:  Item #6730944 from WHORL at LISTS.BEST.COM@INET#\n\nRe: non-Christian Religion in SF.  Well, before I look at the\nencycopedia, DUNE obviously.  And Zelazny stuff, like LORD OF LIGHT\n(Hindu) and CREATURES OF LIGHT AND DARKNESS (ancient Egyptian).  And\na trilogy based upon the (modern synthetic) Scandinavian (Finnish?)\nepic poem that starts with a \"K\"(?).\n\nHmm.  Encyclopedia not much help at the moment.  The \"Religion\"\nsection is mainly re: Christian.  I'm not looking hard enough.\n\n=mantis="
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