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  "thread": {
    "id": 550,
    "subject": "Names and meanings (4)",
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    "first": "1998-08-09T20:12:55+00:00",
    "last": "1998-08-09T20:12:55+00:00"
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      "message_id": "<whorl-v0008-0737@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "mary whalen",
        "address": "marewhalen at yahoo.com"
      },
      "date": "1998-08-09T20:12:55+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) Names and meanings (4)",
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          "text": "This is Sean Whalen (prion).\n\nTrivigaunte.  Looking at this word, I couldn't image its origin. \nParts of it looked Latin, but I couldn't place it at all.  In Latin,\ntri- means three (from tres), vi- means road (from via), and there is\nno stem gaunt-.  However, the closest is gaud-, meaning joy.  This\nmight mean Joy at the Three Roads, or something.  This seems a bit of\na stretch, however.  Trivia is also a by-name of Hekate, the goddess\nof witches, magic, and other things, who was often worshipped by\nwomen.  Trivialis means trivial, unimportant, which is what the\nTrivigaunti war is.  Another Latin word meaning trivial is levis. \nLevis with a long e means smooth, beardless. Trivi means I rubbed, I\nwore away, from terere, to rub, to wear awawy.  This verb is the Latin\nequivalent of Greek tribein, to rub, wear away.  A tribade is a\nlesbian, so Trivigaunte might be Joy of Lesbianism.  This reminded me\nof when Siyuf tells Chenille that in Trivigaunte, men are duty, women\nare pleasure.  Duty in Latin is officiu, munus, pietas, religio, or\nfides, so I don't know if the second part of that phrase has anything\nto do with it.  None of this is perfect, though, so I looked further. \nThe closest word to this in Latin is triginta (thirty).  Taking the\nletters in triginta out of Trivigante, we are left with u, v, and e. \nThe only Latin word I can form out of these is uve, which means,\napproximately, \"be wet!\".  This wasn't going anywhere, so I thought\nthat maybe the letters were scrambled.  The closest word I could find\nwas vigintiviratus, the office of the vigintiviri (a council of twenty\nmen).  The vocative form of vigintiviratus, the form used to address\nas \"you\", is vigintivirate.  Taking the letters in Trivigaunte out of\nvigintivirate, we're left with v, i, and i.  This could form 7 (VII)\nin Latin.  Taking the letters of Trivigaunti (the adjective) out of\nvigintiviratus, we're left with i, u, and s.  Ius (stem iur-) is Latin\nfor both, soup, right, or LAW.  This would make vigintiviratus equal\nto Trivigaunti law (Trivigaunti ius = vigintiviratus).  Since it is\nscrambled, this might mean that men no longer rule in Trivigaunte. \nHowever, virago (stem viragin-) is Latin for warrior-woman.  Taking\nthe letters of viragin- out of Trivigaunte, we're left with t, u, t,\nand e.  Tute is the vocative form of tutus, meaning watched over,\nguarded, protected.  With a long e, it is also the adverbial form of\nthis adjective, meaning safely, guardedly, while being protected. \nThis would mean Trivigaunte means \"Guarded by Warrior Women,\"\nviragintute.  It could also be scrambled into virgine tuta, which\nmeans protected/watched over by the/a virgin (virgo, stem virgin-). \nI'm fairly sure that the explanation for the name can be found among\nthese speculations, but the exact one is still unclear to me.\n\nprion"
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