# new book *The Whorl list — 5 messages, 4 voices, 24 Nov 1998* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Alice Turner *24 Nov 1998, 01:57* Here is a message from David Hartwell concerning the new book. I asked him if we could get a group discount for advance orders. It seems to me strange that he says no--group discounts are not unusual in publishing, and Ranjit tells me that we have about 140 on the list. If even half that number ordered a book, it would be a substantial advance order. Does anyone have a connection with, say, Amazon, who might be willing to offer a group discount? It's depressing that the first book won't be till fall '99. I wonder if we can cohere till then. We've done well so far, but to hold off a full year longer than first expected will be difficult. -alga ----------- Oh sigh,I am not able to sell books at a discount. You can get discounts almost everywhere (Costco is probably the highest on books) but from the publisher. The title of new book number one is On Blue's Waters and I have tentatively scheduled it for next fall. This may change, because the second manuscript, and the third, seem destined to follow quickly--I am told that book two will be turned in perhaps by late January, and the third, Return to the Whorl, perhaps by June, and a new short story collection is coming too. I do not say for certain though what the publication dates or completion dates are, but only what I am given to understand by the agent. I need to call Gene as soon as I finish On Blue's Waters, which will probably be next week. David *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. --- ### Alastair Reynolds *24 Nov 1998, 09:42 · follows Alice Turner* alga: > It's depressing that the first book won't be till fall '99. I wonder if we > can cohere till then. We've done well so far, but to hold off a full year > longer than first expected will be difficult. Yes, that's ages to wait... What's the betting it'll turn into a tetrology like TBOTNS? (According to the Castle of the Otter, the planned third and final volume got too large and they had to split it). I'm very happy as while I was in Devon a week or so back (for Milford!), I found all four volumes of TBOTNS in the original UK paperbacks - a bit dog-eared and faded, but with the wonderfully evocative Bruce Pennington cover paintings, which have always defined my mind's eye view of Wolfe's landscapes. Actually I only found 3 of them, cursed my bad luck, but then Ben Jeapes pointed out that the fourth volume had strayed a few books along the shelf... Al *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. --- ### Kevin J. Maroney *24 Nov 1998, 13:07 · follows Alastair Reynolds* > At 10:42 AM 11/24/98 +0100, Al wrote: > What's the betting it'll turn into a tetrology like TBOTNS? (According to > the Castle of the Otter, the planned third and final volume got too large > and they had to split it). I wouldn't bet on that. Given Wolfe's habit of writing the entire series (in draft) before submitting the manuscript for the first volume--which he did with both _New Sun_ and _Long Sun_, if I recall correctly--and the fast turnaround on the _Short Sun_ books, I'd bet that _Return to the Whorl_ is somewhere close to its final form already. > I'm very happy as while I was in Devon a week or so back (for Milford!), I > found all four volumes of TBOTNS in the original UK paperbacks - a bit > dog-eared and faded, but with the wonderfully evocative Bruce Pennington > cover paintings, which have always defined my mind's eye view of Wolfe's > landscapes. I believe those are Wolfe's favorite covers, as well. Certainly they're beautiful. ``` Kevin Maroney | Crossover Technologies kmaroney at crossover.com | (212) 777-1190 *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. ``` --- ### Michael Straight *24 Nov 1998, 13:45 · follows Kevin J. Maroney* >> On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Kevin J. Maroney wrote: >> I'm very happy as while I was in Devon a week or so back (for Milford!), I >> found all four volumes of TBOTNS in the original UK paperbacks - a bit >> dog-eared and faded, but with the wonderfully evocative Bruce Pennington >> cover paintings, which have always defined my mind's eye view of Wolfe's >> landscapes. > I believe those are Wolfe's favorite covers, as well. Certainly they're > beautiful. Do I remember someone having pictures of those covers on the web? I don't think I've ever seen them, and I would like to. -Rostrum *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. --- ### Alastair Reynolds *25 Nov 1998, 08:23 · follows Michael Straight* Rostrum: >> I believe those are Wolfe's favorite covers, as well. Certainly they're >> beautiful. > Do I remember someone having pictures of those covers on the web? I don't > think I've ever seen them, and I would like to. > > -Rostrum I found Claw of the Conciliator here, without the overlaid text of the cover: http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/ellison/33/bruce1.htm (a lovely scan by the way) and scans of the actual covers, with blurbs etc, here: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~ajellis/WolfeArt.htm Real jaw-dropping stuff - Severian looking stunning in fuligin (it's the new black). Al (apologies for this not being strictly relevant to LS anymore - although isn't Severian rumoured to make an appearance in the Short Sun books?) *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. ---