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  "thread": {
    "id": 603,
    "subject": "more about STL",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "1999-05-03T08:15:20+00:00",
    "last": "1999-05-03T08:43:04+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0009-0105@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Alastair Reynolds",
        "address": "areynold at estsa2.estec.esa.nl"
      },
      "date": "1999-05-03T08:15:20+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (whorl) more about STL",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "mantis:"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Or, back onto the original topic: how many novels or series of novels are\nentirely stl, with only generation starships, no ftl communication of any\nkind, no NAFAL, and no sleeper ships?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Linda Nagata's recent novel Vast, (which I thought was terrific) has ships\nlimited to 0.4 c (so only marginal relativistic effects) and no ftl\ncommunications. As the immortal crew can be copied in and out of computer \nstorage at whim (and can grow new bodies for themselves equally easily) it\ndoesn't fall into either \"sleeper\" or \"generation starship\" category.\n\nRobert Reed has been doing some interesting stories recently, set aboard\na gigantic, slow-moving ship larger than Jupiter  (eg \"Marrow\"). \n\nAl\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0009-0106@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Michael Straight",
        "address": "straight at email.unc.edu"
      },
      "date": "1999-05-03T08:43:04+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (whorl) more about STL",
      "in_reply_to": "<whorl-v0009-0105@digest.urth.net>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
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          "text": "On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, Michael Andre-Driussi wrote:\nTrue, the Niven slowships probably weren't even generational--they were at\nleast partly sleeper ships.  (But part of what I'm looking at goes like\nthis: if ships are limited to stl, then colonized worlds are isolated\nenough that they can deviate from plan and NASA HQ can't do much about it\nfor decades or longer."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
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          "text": "Vernor Vinge's new book \"A Deepness in the Sky\" is partly about the issue\nof whether you can have a cohesive interstellar empire with stl sleeper\nramships.\n\nAnd it's a great book.\n\n-Rostrum\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
        }
      ]
    }
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