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  "thread": {
    "id": 63,
    "subject": "Theophanies and Possessions",
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    "first": "1997-02-03T12:25:50+00:00",
    "last": "1997-02-03T12:25:50+00:00"
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      "message_id": "<whorl-v0002-0103@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Alice Turner",
        "address": "al at interport.net"
      },
      "date": "1997-02-03T12:25:50+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) Theophanies and Possessions",
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          "text": "Whorl Theophanies and Possessions\n\nI thought a list of  the above might be helpful. Note that only a virgin\ncan successfully interpret a theophany (though a determined god can get\nthrough in a pinch, cf Kypris and the captain), but that possession can\nhappen to anyone; of known possessees only the problematic Mint is a\nvirgin. No light show with Tartaros theophanies.\n\nTHEOPHANIES\n\nKypris, at Orchid's sellaria (I,293-298) to Silk: to \"see his face\" (she\nhas glimpsed him earlier at Blood's), probably because of curiosity roused\nby the graffiti campaign.\n\nKypris, at the Sun St. manteion (II,44-45; interpretation 49-51) to Silk\nand the congregation: to encourage \"crime\" in order to raise money for\nSilk; to give Orchid a message; to possess first Mint, then Chenille.\n\nKypris, at Sun St. (II,323-324) to Captain Serval and Marble: to order the\ncaptain to protect Silk.\n\nEchidna, at Sun St. (III,91-93) to the congregation: to order the populace\nto worship Scylla, to kill the Counselors, restore the charter and destroy\nthe Alhambrera; also to possess Marble and sacrifice to herself.\n\nTartaros, at the tunnel altar (III,238-244) to Auk: presumably to get to\nknow him to determine his worthiness as a leader, and also simple\nopportunism (ability, through injury, to communicate with a non-virgin).\n\nPas, at the Grand Manteion (IV,38) to Quetzal and the congregation.\nHearsay.\n\nPas, at Sun St. (IV,67-69; interpretation 98-101) to Incus, Auk,\nHammerstone and congregation: to deliver marching orders.\n\nKypris, at Brick St. Manteion (IV,177-178) to Auk and Chenille: more\nmarching orders.\n\nPas/Echidna/Pas, at the chapel beneath the palace (IV,204-5) to Mint,\nRemora and soldiers: to deliver Sand to the Grand Manteion.\n\nPas or Tartaros, at the Grand Manteion (IV, 235-236) to Auk and company: to\ntransfer Jerboa's \"piece of Pas\" to Auk and fix Sand.\n\nKypris and \"Pas,\" on the Trivigaunte airship (IV,346) to Silk and company:\napparently to tempt Silk, or just for the hell of it.\n\nTartaros, at the launchpad, to say goodbye to Auk.\n\n------\nNote that I personally do not believe any of the Pas theophanies to be\n\"real.\" I think them to be faked by Tartaros and, in the last case, Kypris.\nOthers may disagree.\n\nPOSSESSIONS\n\nKypris takes Hyacinth at Blood's house (I,155-162; cf I,298)\n\nKypris partially takes Mint at Sun St. (II, 45 ff)\n\nKypris takes Chenille at Sun St. (II, 45) leaves her presumably at Limna\nmanteion sometime before II,207.\n\nScylla takes Chenille at Scylla's shrine (II,258), leaves her at Lake Limna\nshrine (III,32)\n\nEchidna takes and leaves Marble at Sun St. (III,92-101)\n\nEchidna partially??? takes Mint???? at Sun St. (III,92 ff)\n\nTartaros takes Auk at the tunnel altar (III,244), leaves him at the Grand\nManteion (IV,65)\n\n-----\nThese possessions differ. Kypris apparently slips in and out of Hy from\ntime to time (our friend mantis has a theory about this, which I am sure\nhe'd love to share). Auk seems to be in control of his senses and actions\nwhile possessed (except, perhaps, when he kidnaps Hy), but Chenille and\n(presumably) Marble are completely taken over. The Mint situation is\ncompletely different from the others, and I don't want to speculate on it\nhere—I'd prefer to think that there is no Echidna in her.\n\n\nENLIGHTENMENTS\n\nThe Outsider enlightens Silk twice, once on the ball court (I,9 cf\nII,285-286) and once on his wedding night (IV,235).\n\n\nQuestions or problems to whorl-owner at lists.best.com"
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