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  "thread": {
    "id": 642,
    "subject": "Digest Whorl v010.n019 (BLUE)",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "1999-09-29T02:09:27+00:00",
    "last": "1999-09-29T02:09:27+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0010-0039@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Robert Borski",
        "address": "rborski at coredcs.com"
      },
      "date": "1999-09-29T02:09:27+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) Re: Digest Whorl v010.n019 (BLUE)",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "Alex Groce having written: "
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "(1)  The three stars struck me early on as having some significance, and\nI was\npleased to see \"Horn\" explain them as Blue, Green and the Long Sun Whorl\n(and,\nof course, the three books of Horn's narrative, and (since this is Wolfe)\nperhaps the three SUN uber-novels and even the Trinity...)"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "This system of narrative break--the triangle of asterisks--is first used in\nTHE FIFTH HEAD OF CERBERUS. Wolfe has denied that Blue and Green are Sainte\nCroix and Sainte Anne, of course, but I also think it's interesting to note\nthat the Neighbors are hard to count when they number more than two--the\nsame as the Shadow Children of Ste. Anne."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "(3)  I think I have a guess at the secret of the inhumi, but there's\nprobably\nsome startling aspect I haven't considered--it seems obvious that they\nonly are\nintelligent because they drink the blood of intelligent creatures.  I\nsuspect\nthat more than this, they in some sense take their \"person\"ality from the\nfirst\nperson whose blood they drink--and that Krait was the inhumi whose first\nfeeding was on Sinew, and thus he really is Horn's son, in a perverse\n(but\nin the end transfigured into something wonderful) sense.  If this is so,\nI\nwonder if Quetzal might have fed on Silk (or maybe Silk's father)?"
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          "text": "Interesting concept. But I think it's much more likely that Quetzal may\nhave \"dined\" on Patera Pike than anyone else; such might explain, if your\nspeculations are correct, the inhumu's semi-Eucharistic proselytization. (I\nalso believe there's evidence in LONG SUN to support this for anyone\nwilling to so argue.)\n\nThat being said, however, how might Horn's knowing this particular secret\nundo the soon-to-come plague of vampires? It's implied that if he shares\nhis knowledge, the citizens of Blue will be able to thwart the inhumi. But\nwhat will they do--forcefeed the new arrivals stupid people or maybe\nanimals, ensuring their lower level of intelligence?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "(7)  Also, now that I've (almost completely) dismissed my Urth is Blue\ntheory,\nI'm wondering how Severian's going to make his supposed appearance."
        },
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          "depth": 0,
          "text": "I'm already leaning toward the theory he may be the mysterious\nQuadrifons--at least until we know something further about him. \n\nDan Rabin having written:"
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          "depth": 1,
          "text": "It has just occurred to me that the narrative structure of _Blue_ has\nsomething in common with the _Odyssey_, in which the famous adventures,\ntold in retrospect, are followed by a laborious homecoming.  There are\nalso\nthe wife left at home and the son who sails in search of the missing\nfather, monsters, and a siren to consider!  [I had to go flip through the\n_Odyssey_ to see if I recalled its structure correctly.]"
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          "text": "Don't forget blind Maytera Marble, who functions the same as Tiresias,\npredicting Horn's future, as well as Circean Mucor, since surely Babbie is\nmuch more than an ordinary boat-rowing hus. \n\nRobert Borski\n \n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
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