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  "thread": {
    "id": 66,
    "subject": "Silk & Quetzal & Hy & aloe",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "1997-02-04T05:11:00+00:00",
    "last": "1997-02-04T05:11:00+00:00"
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    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0002-0106@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "m.driussi",
        "address": "m.driussi at genie.com"
      },
      "date": "1997-02-04T05:11:00+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) Silk & Quetzal & Hy & aloe",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "Reply:  Item #7542240 from WHORL at LISTS.BEST.COM@INET#\n\nTurn back!  Save yourself!"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "Spoiler Alert<<"
        },
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          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Oh, now you've done it.\n\nRe: aloe's list of Theophanies and Possessions.  Nice work!  (In the\npossession part, your \"leaves her presumably at Limna manteion\nsometime before II, 207\" probably wants to have `manteion' deleted,\nright?  Since I'm not aware of a Limna manteion.\n\nBut wait: Kypris (forgive the misspelling of Cyprus before!) cares\nabout graffiti?!  She reads it?  Where, when?  Inquiring minds want\nto know!  <g>\n\nAnd later, re: ghostpike; so you are saying that Quetzal can't see in\nthe dark under the nightland sky?  Fair enough . . . so when he\ndisappears in Blood's much darker cellar, we should be impressed that\nhe doesn't stumble?\n\n(I'm sorry, I still can't see why he would come right back in.  He\nwould only exacerbate the problem of having been seen, which might\nhave been self-remedied with \"Oh, that was a funny dream.\"  The text\naround that episode is in the hypnogogic mode of waking dreamtime,\njust like the similar dream sequence of Maytera Rose's death.\nActually, it is closer to the General Mint sequence at the end of IV,\nwhere things become so weird with Maytera Marble taking off her\nclothes and all [nevermind the almost unprecedented Rose/Marble and =Mint=\nidentity confusion] that it seems more and more like a dream.  Until\nSilk comes riding in.  Corridors of time?  Very much so. Surreal deal.\n\nAnywho, having seen Mucor and the the flying thing, he goes\ndownstairs for a chat with Oreb.  More waking up.  Then the creaking\nbed detail: if Quetzal feels light for his size (he does, doesn't he?\n Or am I making that up?) how could he make the bed creak like a\n\"real\" old man?  This is a quibble, because the main thing is I just\ncan't see why \"Oh, a vision of my fairy godfather, Patera Pike\" is\nbetter serving to Quetzal and Quetzal's plans than \"Oh, what a weird\ndream\" or even \"Oh, that devil thing almost got me.\"  Wanna see the\nface of Silk?  Visit during business hours--or summon him, you're his\nboss, after all.)\n\nI known aloe won't buy this, but Kypris's temptation to Silk on the\nairship is for him to literally become the \"missing piece\" of Osiris,\nif you know what I mean and I think you do.  Thus aloe's contention\nthat Pas isn't complete, that the resurrected Pas is a sham, fits\nquite nicely with the orthodox reading of Osiris after his\nreassembly.  Kypris is doing the Isis thing.  (I'll admit that my\nadditional twist, that Silk is Kypris's biological son, puts enough\ntorque on the whole shebang to skip it off into lala land as far as\naloe is concerned.  Oedipus, meet Aeneas; Aeneas, Oedipus.  Oh look,\nand here's Cupid . . . Psyche can't be far off, can she?)\n\n(Speaking of whom . . .) Re: Hyacinth, my outre' speculation in her case\nis that she is ridden by Kypris 99% of the time we see her.  We don't\nknow Hy; neither does Silk.  Silk loves the Kypris in Hy, not Hy herself,\nsince he doesn't even know her.  He doesn't love Hy, Hy doesn't love\nhim (she might not even know him--see Chenille and Auk at Lake Shrine\nfor details), and Kypris doesn't love him; all this is bad enough, but\nthat Kypris could also be so cruel to him as to commit adultery is enough\nto make him want to jump from the airship (rather than \"to the rafters\"\nas Crane says wistfully [manipulatively] about Hy's \"affection\" for Silk.\n\nMore fun with puns: Horn is metamorphosized from bullhorn (or \"herald's\ntrumpet,\" if you prefer) to inkhorn.\n\n=mantis=\n\nQuestions or problems to whorl-owner at lists.best.com"
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