{
  "export": {
    "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/whorl/661",
    "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it.  Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.",
    "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'"
  },
  "archive": "whorl",
  "thread": {
    "id": 661,
    "subject": "Identify Confusion and More",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "1999-10-06T10:51:08+00:00",
    "last": "1999-10-06T10:51:08+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0010-0062@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "David Lebling",
        "address": "david_lebling at avid.com"
      },
      "date": "1999-10-06T10:51:08+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) Identify Confusion and More",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
      "blocks": [
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "mantis mentioned \"chem-bio\" identity confusion...  Which reminds me of another\nWolfe trademark, a more generalized identity confusion (Sev/Thecla being one of\nthe more prominent ones, but Marsch/VRT comes to mind as well).\n\nCheck out the end of _Blue_ for another, as we get confused between Horn and\nBabbie, not to mention a touch of Silk.  I have a feeling we'll be seeing a lot\nmore on this one later in the trilogy.  As with Oreb, there is a lot more to\nBabbie than meets the eye.\n\n *\n* *\nalga and mantis both commented on the multi-armed Neighbors.  Most of the native\nmammals (or is that \"mammals\") on Blue have eight legs, I think.  Babbie is the\nprototype for this, as we meet him first.  But the \"elephants\" aren't elephants\n(two trunks, for example), the \"horses\" aren't horses (not completely sure about\nthis one), and so on.  Cows seem to be cows, at least, but even that I wouldn't\nwager on.  I don't think the wallowers (\"hippos\" with horns?) or the breakbull\n(\"elk\"?) ever have their number of limbs specified, but I'd bet it's also eight.\nIt is interesting that so many Blue \"mammals\" have horns, though.\n\nSeawrack, as mantis opines, is almost certainly a modified (gills, Siren\nabilities, etc.) human born on Blue.  She has memories of her real mother, after\nall.  Seawrack deserves a whole essay of her own, of course.  Just to start,\nthere's her strange relationship with the Mother, and the equally strange one\nwith Horn.  Does she actually love either?  There's her obvious guilt about her\nsirenian (a word which has the wrong meaning, but fits somehow) seduction of\nHorn, which she was forced into by Horn at the instigation of Krait. Yikes!\nGiven that they are in some bizarre way a family (or pose as one, anyway), they\ncould get on Jerry Springer in a minute!\n\n *\n* *\nalga, are you going to follow up on your tantalizing comment about racism?\n\n *\n* *\nDoes anyone know the publication schedule for the remaining two volumes?  I\nthought we had had a post on that subject, but I couldn't find it in the\narchives.\n\n     -- Dave Lebling\n     (aka vizcacha)\n\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
        }
      ]
    }
  ]
}