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  "thread": {
    "id": 742,
    "subject": "stuff",
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    "first": "1999-12-09T20:55:44+00:00",
    "last": "1999-12-10T21:21:05+00:00"
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    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0010-0197@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Joshua A. Solomon",
        "address": "j.solomon at ucl.ac.uk"
      },
      "date": "1999-12-09T20:55:44+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) stuff",
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          "text": "Finally got my hands on OBW!\n\nDoes Krait, a naturally base creature, atone for his original sin\n(sucking blood) by helping others? Does Horn/Silk shrive him?\nIs that when he divulges his secret?\n\nI suspect that Remora et al. were hip to both the lander's\nreal destination and the inhumu's secret when they went to Lizard.\n\nIf the Neighbors reveal themselves to everybody a la Westwind,\nRemora et al. might have learned these secrets from them.\n\nAlternatively, Remora might have shriven Quetzal as Horn apparently\nshrove Krait.\n\nSince the inhumu apparently absorb the attitudes (as well as the\nintellegence) of their dinners, perhaps Remora et al. are sending\nHorn to \"poison\" the inhumu with kindness. (Maybe the think he's kind\nof dumb, too.)\n\nAlso:\n\np. 368: \"felwolf\"\n\nHow can a one-armed girl (?) catch fish with her \"hands?\"\n\nPajaroku, the city that's not really there, reminds me of A Solar Labyrinth,\na maze that's not really there.\n\np. 246: \"there are men here where land is free for the working who want\nland,\nand more and better land, and others to work it for them,\nand they always believe that someone else's land is better.\nThey would crush the small farmers if I let them.\" Um, O.K. Gene.\nWhy not simply have Oreb say, \"Conglomerates Bad!\"\n\nFinally, what made Horn act like a bastard on p. 286, or was\nhe just pretending? (In that case, why was he pretending?)\n\nbee"
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          "text": "Joshua A. Solomon\nInstitute of Ophthalmology\n11 - 43 Bath Street\nLondon EC1V 9EL\nVoice: (44) 20 7608 6924\nFax: (44) 20 7608 6846\nj.solomon at ucl.ac.uk\nhttp://vision.arc.nasa.gov/personnel/jsolomon"
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    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0010-0198@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Endymion9",
        "address": "endymion9 at aol.com"
      },
      "date": "1999-12-10T21:21:05+00:00",
      "subject": "re: (whorl) stuff",
      "in_reply_to": "<whorl-v0010-0197@digest.urth.net>",
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          "text": "\"Joshua A. Solomon\" <j.solomon at ucl.ac.uk>\nwrote:\n<<Finally, what made Horn act like a bastard on p. 286, or was>>\n<<he just pretending? (In that case, why was he pretending?)>>\n\nAre you referring to his lopping the heads off of the men who collected tax \nand kept part of it for themselves?  As a ruler, what would you have done?  \nSlapped their wrists?  That would have encouraged others to do the same and \nthe city would have lost all or most of their operating funds.  Sometimes \nbeing a leader means making the hard choices.\n\nDo you think we and Horn have seen the last of Seawrack or do you expect her \nto make an appearance in the next two books?  She was a very interesting \ncharacter that I confess I don't totally understand.  I hope her mystery will \nbe revealed later.  Horn warned she could be a grave danger that \"the mother\" \nhas sent among the landbound people.\n\nAlso, do you think that Mucor possessed Babbie most of the journey?  Or was \nshe there in disembodied spirit.  I thought the main reason she sent Babbie \nwas to have a psychic connection to Horn and keep track of him.\n\nInteresting thought, shriving the inhumi.  Would inhumi understand shriving \nor merely mimic men doing it?  I still don't understand why Krait couldn't \nmimic the use of the gun and thus fire it.  \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nDennis/Endy\n\nHappiness is reading a good scifi book while listening to XTC  :)\n\n~~dancing us from the darkest night is the rhythm of love powered by the \nbeating of hearts~~  XTC\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
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