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    "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/whorl/745",
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  "thread": {
    "id": 745,
    "subject": "Digest whorl.v010.n063",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "1999-12-22T08:48:37+00:00",
    "last": "1999-12-22T19:21:53+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0010-0202@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Paul C Duggan",
        "address": "pduggan at world.std.com"
      },
      "date": "1999-12-22T08:48:37+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) Re: Digest whorl.v010.n063",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "Horn isn't even fully grown then (or is he?). Yet OBW states that Horn has\ngrown quite noticeably (I can't find the figure he gives -- it is in\ncubits, which confuses the issue further, but I think to recall a good 6"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "What if Blue has lighter gravity than the whorl?\n\nPaul\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0010-0203@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Alice Turner",
        "address": "akt at attglobal.net"
      },
      "date": "1999-12-22T19:21:53+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) Re: Digest whorl.v010.n063",
      "in_reply_to": "<whorl-v0010-0202@digest.urth.net>",
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          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "The hypothesis that Horn is actually in Silk's body is appealing; yet it\nseems contradicted by the very beginning of NtLS:\n\n\"With a slight shock of insight, Silk realized [...] that Horn's [...]"
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        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "eyes"
        },
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          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "were very nearly level with his.\" (p.15)\n\nHorn isn't even fully grown then (or is he?). Yet OBW states that Horn has\ngrown quite noticeably (I can't find the figure he gives -- it is in\ncubits, which confuses the issue further, but I think to recall a good 6\ninches were implied). Perhaps (gasp!) Wolfe is being inconsistent, perhaps\nthis isn't Silk's body, or perhaps I'm just hopelessly confused. Any\nthoughts?"
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          "text": "Yves, it's awfully confusing, and deliberately so, but consistent with\nWolfe's deliberate confusions in much of his writing. Nevertheless, that's a\ngood catch of yours, and it's a slip on Wolfe's part, for he does imply in\nOBW that the \"Silk\" body is considerably, maybe even a head, taller than the\n\"Horn\" body. In OBW the evidence eventually becomes pretty strong that\nHorn's spirit does indeed inhabit Silk's body, though.\n\nAs for etymologies: the \"hus\" seems unique to Blue; nothing in English (the\n\"hus\" of husband and other words refers to \"house\") remarks it. \"Felwolf\"\nseems pretty clear, a colonist's word, with the old \"fell\" meaning\n\"dreadful\" or \"terrible.\" Breakbull and leatherskin, as you say, seem\ndescriptive. But mightn't colonists use old, familiar words for new animals?\nAmerican \"Indians?\" It's unlikely (to me) that elephants were stocked on the\nWhorl, but books were, and the words are useful. In TBOTNS \"olifants\" and\n\"mamoths\" might have been chosen to describe these new beasts, but here (and\nearlier in TBOTSS) I think we have a new translator <g>.\n\n-alga\n\n\n\n\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
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