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  "thread": {
    "id": 755,
    "subject": "Digest whorl.v010.n070",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "2000-01-20T09:32:29+00:00",
    "last": "2000-01-20T10:01:16+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0010-0225@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Alice Turner",
        "address": "pei047 at attglobal.net"
      },
      "date": "2000-01-20T09:32:29+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) Re: Digest whorl.v010.n070",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "Wm. Ansley posited:"
        },
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          "depth": 1,
          "text": "I think the secret is that ALL human beings must be protected from the bite\nof the inhumi. No one on Blue wants the inhumi to feed on themselves or\ntheir loved ones and they will usually go to great lengths to prevent it.\nBut, even though most of them probably don't want the inhumi to feed on any\nhuman being, they won't risk themselves or even make much of an effort to\nprotect anyone else. But, if everyone knew that if the inhumi were\nprevented from getting any human blood at all, they would become\nunintelligent and (more importantly) unable to pose as human, then they\nmight be motivated to actually act on this knowledge.\n\nI have to wonder how possible this complete protection would be, however.\nIt doesn't seem entirely plausible to me, which makes me expect that there\nwill turn out to be more than this to Krait's secret."
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          "text": "Nicely reasoned, Wm. (and thanks for reprising the Lebling list), but I don't buy it for a moment. (And I don't think you do either.) Look, you guys, you're all familiar with the author--what on earth makes you think that Wolfe is going to give you the secret before Book III (if then)? Would that be in characacter? Of course not! Not that it isn't fun to speculate in advance, but (IMO) the speculations have been spectacularly un-Wolfean to date. Sweetness and Light is hardly his game.\n\n-alga\n\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
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    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0010-0226@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Alex David Groce",
        "address": "alex_groce at gs246.sp.cs.cmu.edu"
      },
      "date": "2000-01-20T10:01:16+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (whorl) Re: Digest whorl.v010.n070",
      "in_reply_to": "<whorl-v0010-0225@digest.urth.net>",
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          "text": "alga said:"
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          "text": "Nicely reasoned, Wm. (and thanks for reprising the Lebling list), but I don't bu\ny it for a moment. (And I don't think you do either.) Look, you guys, you're all\nfamiliar with the author--what on earth makes you think that Wolfe is going to \ngive you the secret before Book III (if then)? Would that be in characacter? Of \ncourse not! Not that it isn't fun to speculate in advance, but (IMO) the specula\ntions have been spectacularly un-Wolfean to date. Sweetness and Light is hardly \nhis game."
        },
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          "text": "True.  I doubt we have enough to figure out the whole secret (or even the key).\nHowever, Wolfe is also good for sticking clues to Big Secrets early in the text\nand then making you slap yourself on second reading and say \"Why didn't I realize\nthat?\"  I think it's very likely that the whole \"inhumi steal their nature from\nus\" idea is at the very least going to be an important element of the story to\ncome (Krait!) and I suspect it has SOMETHING to do with Horn's Solution.  Anyway,\nit is very Lupine to take Sweetness and Light as his starting point and pull the\nrug out from under it and us.\n\n\n\"And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.\" John 8:32"
        },
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          "text": "Alex David Groce (agroce+ at cs.cmu.edu)\nPh.D. Student, Carnegie Mellon University - Computer Science Department\n8112 Wean Hall (412)-268-3066\nhttp://www.cs.cmu.edu/~agroce\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
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