The Inhumi-Destroying Secret The Whorl list — 2 messages, 2 voices, 20 Jan 2000 https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/whorl/756 Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. ============================================================================== Josh Levitan — 20 Jan 2000, 21:05 > David Wells wrote: > a) I agree with several posters that the "you are what you eat" theory is > by > far the most morally/philosophically interesting candidate for the inhumi > secret, and also the most consistent with what I would expect from Wolfe. > But it doesn't seem to fit with Horn's description of the secret, as has > also been pointed out. (And let's assume that this isn't just because Horn > is far from the brightest bulb in the chandelier, and is also a somewhat > incoherent and inconsistent narrator). > A much more boring variation, but one which might fit the known facts > better, is a bit more physical/literal. Suppose that it's _particular > chemicals_ - e.g. adrenaline - which make the inhumi more > intelligent/humanlike. So if the humans organise themselves to stay a bit > calmer and be a little less afraid of the inhumi, the latter would become > gradually less intelligent (and maybe eventually even our heroic narrator > would be able to outsmart them ;-). > I know this sounds like an old Star Trek script, and I rather hope it's > _not_ the secret, but it seems to work a little better with respect to > Horn's description of the secret. It allows the humans to continue to be > intrinsically sinful creatures, but encourages them to try not to _act out_ > their sins, because this would fill their bloodstreams with > inhumi-stimulating chemicals. Hmmm... The problem with this is, it doesn't work any better than either the "you-are-what-you-eat" theory or the do-unto-others theory. Trying to control involuntary glandular secretions (which are secreted as a reaction to dangerous creatures) on a society-wide scale is not workable (and probably not possible, with the technology the Blue colonists possess). Nice thought, though. > And then Alga wrote: > Look, you guys, you're all familiar with the author--what on earth makes > you think that Wolfe is going to give you the secret before Book III (if > then)? Would that be in characacter? Of course not! Not that it isn't fun > to speculate in advance, but (IMO) the speculations have been spectacularly > un-Wolfean to date. Sweetness and Light is hardly his game. As I said before, I think the sheer number of references made to the secret in the text sort of hint at its solution. This seems, knowing Wolfe's favorite authors, like a deliberate reference to Borges' "The Sect of the Phoenix." I'm sure the secret will be made abundantly clear at some point, perhaps in "Green," but I think we've got enough info to figure it out now, although nobody has yet. To reiterate, in the hopes somebody will crack this: We've got a secret that Krait imparts to Horn, mainly because of the close, father-son bond the two developed. It's a secret that is extremely dangerous to the inhumi, and can return them to the level of ignorant predators. It's obviously something that can be acted on fairly quickly, something relatively simple (i.e., it doesn't require a high level of technology), and, if the Rajan/Horn (whomever) spreads the secret, that will pretty much enable everyone to act on it. This rules out things like preventing the inhumi from biting humans or changing society into a textbook Christian one, because these are not workable, and one person who doesn't follow these "cures" would screw the whole thing up for everybody. Narwhal (my new Vironese name -- thanks Alga, for your input on this) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jim Henley — 21 Jan 2000, 09:21 follows, by subject match Josh Levitan > -----Original Message----- > From: Josh Levitan [mailto:josh_levitan at hotmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 4:06 PM > > This rules out things like > preventing the inhumi from biting humans or changing society > into a textbook > Christian one, because these are not workable, and one person > who doesn't > follow these "cures" would screw the whole thing up for everybody. Anent the "prevent any human from being bitten" theory, this doesn't just fall afoul of the problem of getting every human to care about protecting every other human. It falls afoul of Nobody can go outside except in groups of three, Nobody can explore new territory, Nobody can live in the country etc. > Narwhal (my new Vironese name -- thanks Alga, for your input on this) Cool name! Best, Plas *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------