# Digest whorl.v010.n076 *The Whorl list — 2 messages, 2 voices, 30 Jan 2000* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### David Langford *30 Jan 2000, 20:59* > Alga wrote: > the apparition of Patera Pike (LS1), which has caused a great deal of > fingerwork on many keyboards for these archives. (I still think it was > Quetzal, though.) > And Nutria wrote: > [...] am inclined to agree > with Alga that the ghost of Patera Pike is in fact Quetzal. When members of this very list posed a number of questions to Wolfe back in 1997, Q27 and Wolfe's answer went as follows: Is Pike's ghost really Quetzal? No. Of course it might still have been some other inhumu! I ran this material as part of an APA contribution, and it's still on my website at: www.ansible.demon.co.uk/cc/cc77.html#wolfe Also Alex David Groce wrote, in the context of Horn's rape of Seawrack and the ring: > Covenant raped Lena, who (did she? I don't > really remember) gives him a white-gold ring with mysterious powers. Um, no: Covenant's ring is his wedding ring, from this world and from before his leprosy. Clearly I'm feeling picky today! Dave David Langford ansible at cix.co.uk | http://www.ansible.co.uk/ *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. --- ### Alex David Groce *31 Jan 2000, 12:35 · follows David Langford* Dave Langford said: > Also Alex David Groce wrote, in the context of Horn's rape of Seawrack > and the ring: >> Covenant raped Lena, who (did she? I don't >> really remember) gives him a white-gold ring with mysterious powers. > Um, no: Covenant's ring is his wedding ring, from this world and from > before his leprosy. Thank goodness--I just haven't read the Covenant books in so long that my memory of the details is slowly eroding. This lessens the spooky resemblance considerably. By the way, you can all drop the "David Groce" part. "Alex" is plenty (the stuffy signature is because I'm too lazy to get multiple signatures working right with my Rube Goldberg mh mail interface to emacs). "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." John 8:32 ``` Alex David Groce (agroce+ at cs.cmu.edu) Ph.D. Student, Carnegie Mellon University - Computer Science Department 8112 Wean Hall (412)-268-3066 http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~agroce *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. ``` ---